Thanks Daniel, Olga!  Keeping 3 versions would be nice.

As for 'stable', can we revisit the definition?  
If it's *always* pointing to the latest release, I don't see the need for 
having this link(dir).
Is it adding any value?

Koji




On Oct 22, 2013, at 1:43 PM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com> wrote:

> That's totally make sense. Let's keep both download/documentation for 3
> versions.
> 
> Thanks,
> Daniel
> 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Olga Natkovich <onatkov...@yahoo.com>wrote:
> 
>> Couple of suggestions:
>> 
>> (1) I think we are trying to go for a more frequent release model and in
>> that case it would make sense to keep perhaps 3 releases. Based on our
>> experience at Yahoo, Pig 10 is the really stable release. We recently found
>> a couple of critical bugs in 11 for which we posted patches. Also the
>> community knows that we delayed a couple of key bugs in 12 till 12.1
>> (2) Our documentation needs to be consistent with the number of releases
>> we advertise as supported. Our docs currently go all the way to Pig 9.
>> 
>> Olga
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tuesday, October 22, 2013 10:13 AM, Daniel Dai <da...@hortonworks.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Koji,
>> Here is the criteria I use:
>> (i) How do we determine how many releases to show on the front download
>> page?
>> We usually keep two most recent releases on the front page according to
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/PIG/HowToRelease.
>> 
>> (ii) How do we determine which release is considered 'stable' ?
>> Here "stable" means passing all tests, peer reviewed. It does not mean
>> production "stable". Actually there is no way for us to know production
>> "stable" after user download it, use it and gives feedback. That's why we
>> will continue fixing bugs after major release. and make minor releases.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Koji Noguchi <knogu...@yahoo-inc.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> When I went to the pig release download page (through
>>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.cgi/pig), I only saw 0.11.1 and 0.12
>>> available.
>>> I later learned that there is an 'archive' link(
>>> http://archive.apache.org/dist/pig/)  that list other versions (0.8 to
>>> 0.10).
>>> 
>>> Two questions.
>>> 
>>> (i) How do we determine how many releases to show on the front download
>>> page?
>>> 
>>> (ii) How do we determine which release is considered 'stable' ?
>>> 
>>> I still consider the stable version to be 0.10.1 so I was surprised not
>> to
>>> see that available on the front download page
>>> and even more surprised to see release 0.12 flagged as 'stable'.
>>> 
>>> Koji
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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