That's a good point Noel.  I actually created
http://code.google.com/p/pivot-contrib/ a couple of weeks ago just to backup
a layout container that I was working on that was too app-specific to be in
the platform.  I don't like the idea of putting stuff like that
(app-specific add-ons) in the platform, but there's no legal reason to put
it on Google Code either... it's almost as if we could create a separate
hierarchy in SVN that lived off the trunk and never got released where we
could put stuff like this.  Then if newbies wanted widget X, and someone had
built it before in this playground, we could just point the newbie there,
and they could fork it and build it themselves.

I know Niclas created "skunk" as a sibling to "trunk", but I'm not sure
that's appropriate, as I think it was meant for experimental features that
may be included in the trunk some day...

In any case, what do others think?
-T

On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Noel Grandin <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Pivot is still showing normal early stage adoption i.e. a trickle of
> interest. These things tend to ramp in bursts, so my counsel would
> simply be to be patient.
>
> I agree on the SWT issue - I don't think porting Pivot to SWT would
> improve adoption. SWT already has JFace, Nebula and various other
> additional widget libraries.
>
> On the other hand, Pivot is a great example of how good Swing could be
> if it was allowed to evolve :-)
>
> I do notice that we're getting various conversations along the lines of
>
> Newbie: "X is very easy to do with toolkit Y"
> Pivot-guru: "You could implement X on top of component C"
> Newbie: "That's too hard! Can't you just add it?"
> Pivot-guru: "Adding that feature doesn't really fit into our architecture"
>
> Which is reasonable, but maybe we should be implementing these features
> in some kind of extras package until we have a good enough idea of how
> to fit the features into the main codebase?
>
> -- Noel
>
> On 2010-02-23 00:14, Greg Brown wrote:
> > Though we have only gotten two responses on the SWT question, it seems as
> though an SWT port may not be the best way to move Pivot forward. Michael
> made some great suggestions. What do others think? What can we do to help
> raise awareness of and interest in Pivot as a viable alternative to other
> Java-based UI technologies?
> >
> >
>
>

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