Hi Michael,

Thanks!

Did you forget to push? The PR still shows old data in GH.

Cheers,
Dmitri.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2026 at 12:52 PM Michael Collado <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks Dmitri. I did update the PR with a changelog update.
>
> Re: the other privileges, I'm not really sure what the intention was in
> adding them. Perhaps @dennis-huo can chime in?
>
> Mike
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 9:48 AM Dmitri Bourlatchkov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Michael,
> >
> > Making catalog-level grant/revote permissions symmetrical makes sense to
> > me.
> >
> > Re: PR 3906, the change looks good to me. I believe it still deserves
> > mention in the CHANGELOG.
> >
> > I have a couple of side question, though: while browsing related code, I
> > found that the following existing operations are not used in Apache
> > Polaris:
> > * REVOKE_PRINCIPAL_GRANT_FROM_PRINCIPAL_ROLE
> > * REVOKE_PRINCIPAL_ROLE_GRANT_FROM_PRINCIPAL_ROLE
> >
> > The operations also reference the
> PRINCIPAL_ROLE_MANAGE_GRANTS_FOR_GRANTEE
> > permission, but due to lack of their usage, reasoning about this change
> is
> > a bit complicated in the current codebase.
> >
> > Would it make sense to remove the unused operations (in a separate PR, of
> > course)?
> >
> > The only remaining usage of PRINCIPAL_ROLE_MANAGE_GRANTS_FOR_GRANTEE
> > appears to be in REVOKE_ROOT_GRANT_FROM_PRINCIPAL_ROLE, which is invoked
> by
> > PolarisAdminService.revokePrivilegeOnRootContainerFromPrincipalRole()...
> > yet it does not appear to be called anywhere. WDYT?
> >
> > Is the REVOKE_ROOT_GRANT_FROM_PRINCIPAL_ROLE permission relevant anymore?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Dmitri.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 2, 2026 at 12:19 PM Michael Collado <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hey folks
> > >
> > > I wanted to raise awareness of a small change in the privilege model in
> > > #3906. Currently, the catalog_admin role in a given catalog has
> > privileges
> > > to grant a Catalog Role to any Principal Role. However, the
> catalog_admin
> > > role by itself is not enough to revoke that Catalog Role. Instead, the
> > > privilege model requires the user has both the catalog_admin role and
> > also
> > > the privilege to manage grants for principal roles (typically, the
> > > service_admin). In effect, this means that the service_admin role has
> to
> > > have catalog_admin privileges on every catalog or catalog roles can't
> be
> > > revoked once they were granted.
> > >
> > > The change in my PR removes the requirement to manage grants on
> > > the principale role so that the grant and revoke actions are
> symmetrical
> > > and require the same privilege - CATALOG_MANAGE_ACCESS on the target
> > > catalog.
> > >
> > > Unless there are objections, I'd like to merge this PR in the next
> couple
> > > of days. Please let me know if there are any concerns.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/apache/polaris/pull/3906
> > >
> > > Mike
> > >
> >
>

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