Hi Louis, 
Am Tue, 15 Mar 2005 00:29:23 -0800, schrieb Louis Suarez-Potts:
>> We know that this version is neither a beta release candidate nor a 
>> real beta. It hast too many errors. 
> 
> Indeed, though it's rather nice, anyway. Congrats to all.  But has m79
> been superseded now by m85? 

Yes indeed. And we didn't release m79 cause nobody gave a general 
O.K. and I learned my lessons and I didn't want to do another solo 
run. In the meantime we build m83 without greater problems and a 
fewer patches. But still there are patches needed and another cws. 
I have my patches but not the maybe additional patches that Eric 
Bachard had for his m83 build.

Second we both used patches which were officially refused and so 
they cannot be used in the official sources/releases but I for 
myself refuse to not use them cause they make life easier on the 
Mac equal how good or poor the code quality of them may be or if 
they are general enought. What I mean are the patches for creating 
Metapackages and the one for accendet chars support. 

Third. I have no M85 for Mac OS X. I didn't have the time to build 
it and M86 which I checked out yesterday didn't get further then 
the ./configure script. The whole config_office module seemed to be 
messed up for using it on Mac OS X. But M87 is on the horizon and 
Florian Heckl can join building from tomorrow on and Eric Bachard 
later the week. 

But ask Maho I guess he has an M85 build but I think with the help 
of the NetBSD Package Collection. Pavel may have Mac OS X  builds 
too. I totally lost control on who currently builds Mac OS X and 
which Milestone. 

We three, Florian, Eric and me, try to coordinate and build the 
same Milestone but we are not the only ones and perhaps others have 
better builds. 
 
> Also, are you just releasing it via the DE project? I think we could do
> a more general release--English, French *and* German ;-)

Of course we can! I just want an O.K. from a person in charge. 

At the moment I have M83 in German, Englisch and Frensh. I have an 
invitation to the german testers to test this M83 and report bugs. 
This invitation could be the base for a PR or not. Ed also 
mentioned the ooodocs forums. There we may find testers. 

The biggest Problem is that so far nobody seems to have a build for 
Mac OS X 10.2.x aka Jaguar. We currently build using XCode 1.5 plus 
November 2004 gcc 3.3 Update and Mac OS X 10.3.x which excludes all 
prior Mac OS X releases. 

Regards, 
Eric Hoch

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