Hi Mox, Am Mon, 3 Oct 2005 22:42:13 +0300, schrieb Mox: > On 10/3/05, eric.bachard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To see how well XUL w/ Gecko integrates with Mac, just download Firefox or > Camino to your computer from mozilla.org.... ^^^^^^ Sorry here you are wrong. Camino is a Cocoa based browser using the Gecko Engine. It's not written in XUL. From www.caminobrowser.org
Mac OS X Native Camino integrates into your Mac OS X computing environment. The native Cocoa interface and the beautifully designed icons make Camino a decorative desktop citizen. Camino supports the services inside the application menu to provide quick access to other tools and utilities installed on your machine. It also integrates the Address Book into its bookmark manager, so you'll never forget the URLs of your closest friends again. Nothing about XUL here. > Plus it would make localization and menu editing a matter of changing a > plain text file. And you can make the change and see the results while > running OOo! Right, but same for real Cocoa/Objective C. Almost everything is in a .plist file for your language and once this file is translated a lot of work is done. > The OOo XUL might have interested parties also outside Mac community, so it > wouldn't be just 3 person effort. At least Stefan Schäfer and Michael Meeks > (Novell) have shown interest. There will always be some interest for any kinf of developing and porting OOo to any GUI plattform out there, that is only natural. The point here is that even when QT and other kits are available for OS X and are OS X native the "real native feeling" only is Coccoa/Objective-C. We advanced users and developers can life with QT and other GUI kits but what about the long time Mac user? He switched to OS X and now he has an OOo that uses XUL and the feeling of native but not really native. > Getting OOo for Mac in shape with only X11 is already a huge task. Adding > Cocoa or something else on top of it makes the work 10 times harder and time > consuming. Where are the people who have time for it? I hope that once the real Cocoa/Objective-C port is started we get more developers involved and more interested users wanting a native OOo even if there is a competer out there in Neo/J. > I think it's better to stick with X11, unless there is some solution that > gets us more people to work with it. I think Apple will provide X11 in the > future as well. And at least we will have X11 through fink or opendarwin. Where did Eric B write that he will dismiss the X11 port any time soon. At least the 2.0.x series will we maintain for X11 and yes there will always be a X11 via Darwinports, fink, XDarwin.org or whererever you get it from. Regards, Eric Hoch -- ## Ansprechpartner Anwenderunterstützung, users-Mailingliste, MacOSX ## de.OpenOffice.org - Office für MacOS X, Linux, Solaris & Windows ## Openoffice.org - ich steck mit drin! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
