Hi,

Torsten Trautwein a écrit :

I just watched the video of Eric Bachard (http://ooocon- arnes.kiberpipa.org//media/OSX_Port_Eric_Bachard/play.html).
I really appreciate the switch from X11 to a native Cocoa/Aqua port.

Please, english is not my native language, and I'm maybe not precise in this video. So, don't be confused :

- actual 2.0 is using X11, and OpenOffice.org2.x works fine on Mac OS X. We of course will continue to maintain it.

- not use X11 is for development version only : development means work is started, but this is laboratory project, and everything has to be done.

It's a normal way for a free software project to have both production version and development version.

Actually, the most important part for us, vcl part (even if vcl is not the only concerned module), is not correctly documented. This is a first priority task, because describe how everything works is absolutly necessary. We cannot expect to do serious work without this step. And, IMHO, this will be one of the most important time-consuming parts in the process.

Other important point : Apple's decision to use Intel processors will completely modify the market, and OpenOffice.org project cannot miss this important step. The consequence is that Mac OS X port of OpenOffice.org has important chances to become a major port. I still wonder why they are so few reactions about this.

The biggest problem is that it's not possible to change anything without have a complete description/view : mix 2 (completely different) frameworks gives quite unstable results, and a deep analyse is obligatory.

AFAIK, OpenOffice.org is a free project, and put some pedagogy in it cannot be bad. Actually, just some people are able to explain how vcl works.


So, my question is: Is there already a Cocoa/Aqua version of Openoffice to test?

No, not in the form you can use it as you can do, for example, with actual 2.0.

Another important point : build without X11 does not mean the application will have a native Cocoa Application behaviour. Aqua build will still give the same behaviour like actual OpenOffice.org does.

To obtain a complete Cocoa "behaviour", use native menus, etc, a lot of things have to be (re)implemented. That's the reason why we need first a complete documentation.


And if not, how far is the development?

BTW, are you developer ? I often see new names here, and I was wondering... :-)



Regards,
eric bachard

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