2020-06-11 16:08:45 UTC - Enrico Olivelli: Hi I saw this post and it tells that Pulsar client is connecting to the bookies. Is it true? <https://www.kai-waehner.de/blog/2020/06/09/apache-kafka-versus-apache-pulsar-event-streaming-comparison-features-myths-explored/#sub-myth-pulsar-clients-can-talk-directly-to-the-bookkeeper-storage-layer-kafka-always-involves-going-through-the-kafka-broker|https://www.kai-waehner.de/blog/2020/06/09/apache-kafka-versus-apache-pulsar-event-streaming-comparison-features-myths-explored/#sub-myth-pulsar-clients-can-talk-directly-to-the-bookkeeper-storage-layer-kafka-always-involves-going-through-the-kafka-broker> ---- 2020-06-11 16:09:06 UTC - Matteo Merli: Of course it's not, as most of the things in that post ---- 2020-06-11 16:10:29 UTC - Matteo Merli: but I find the choice of the image above very revealing of the intentions of the post joy : Nicolas Ha, Ali Ahmed, Konstantinos Papalias ---- 2020-06-11 16:10:41 UTC - Jerry Peng: :joy: ---- 2020-06-11 16:18:05 UTC - Addison Higham: it is tempting to write a big long comment... but meh ---- 2020-06-11 18:16:57 UTC - Patrik Kleindl: I got the impression that the connections from Pulsar functions to the table service is direct, or do they go through the brokers too? ---- 2020-06-11 18:42:06 UTC - Patrik Kleindl: It sure is biased, but countering the claims with arguments would be helpful for anyone new to the discussion. 100 : Konstantinos Papalias, Julius S ---- 2020-06-11 18:56:30 UTC - Karthik Ramasamy: @Sijie Guo - was working on it? ---- 2020-06-11 20:04:09 UTC - Devin G. Bost: Wow…. That’s bad. ---- 2020-06-11 20:04:29 UTC - Devin G. Bost: Agreed. So sad! ---- 2020-06-11 20:04:37 UTC - Devin G. Bost: We could all gang up on them ---- 2020-06-11 20:04:52 UTC - Devin G. Bost: Agreed. Someone needs to say something. ---- 2020-06-11 20:17:11 UTC - Sijie Guo: @Karthik Ramasamy: we are writing a blog post to clarify some of the misunderstanding in <https://www.confluent.io/kafka-vs-pulsar/> ---- 2020-06-11 20:18:46 UTC - Devin G. Bost: I added a comment, but I doubt they will approve it since it’s highly critical of the article. ---- 2020-06-11 20:24:38 UTC - Karthik Ramasamy: ok ---- 2020-06-11 22:56:07 UTC - Greg Methvin: yeah, clearly this guy has an agenda… ---- 2020-06-11 23:19:20 UTC - Greg Methvin: There’s a lot of unfair comparison on that confluent article. For example they list 17 “supported” languages for Kafka and 22 for RabbitMQ, but most of those are not official clients, and many are not actively maintained anymore. ---- 2020-06-11 23:26:55 UTC - Greg Methvin: That’s not to say they don’t have useful criticisms. The “lightweight” documentation and lack of enterprise support have been problems for us, though it’s not surprising given that Pulsar is a much younger project. ---- 2020-06-12 08:19:53 UTC - Daniel Ciocirlan: @Daniel Ciocirlan has joined the channel ----