Enrico - I was suggesting not even making it a standalone. TC is a
component that really tied to Pulsar protocol and logic. We shouldn't do it
until it is really needed.

- Sijie

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 1:21 PM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Il giorno mer 21 apr 2021 alle ore 21:57 Sijie Guo
> <guosi...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> >
> > We build transaction components in modules. It provides the flexibility
> for
> > people to run those components independently.
> >
> > However, I don't think we should encourage this deployment at the
> > beginning. Because most of the users don't have deep knowledge about how
> > the transaction works and have no idea how to manage them if you run them
> > separately. Hence my recommendation is that we don't add such a
> deployment
> > option in the documentation and helm chart. It will just confuse users.
>
> I am fine with not documenting how to do it for the 2.8 release, the
> same for the official Apache Pulsar Helm Chart.
>
> but currently there is no way to deploy the Transaction Coordinator as
> a standalone module,
> if there is a way to launch an isolated TC please let me know
> otherwise I will at least create an issue on github and hopefully we
> can implement it for Pulsar 2.9.0, when transactions will be hopefully
> considered fully stable.
>
> Enrico
>
>
>
>
>
> >
> > - Sijie
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 8:59 AM Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Il giorno mer 21 apr 2021 alle ore 16:18 PengHui Li
> > > <codelipeng...@gmail.com> ha scritto:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Enrico,
> > > >
> > > > The current implementation of the transaction coordinator is run with
> > > the broker, but the transaction coordinator
> > > > Is a separate module in Pulsar. This is also mentioned in PIP-31
> > > https://github.com/apache/pulsar/wiki/PIP-31%3A-Transaction-Support
> > >
> > > Great.
> > > Is there any ongoing effort to add the ability to run the TC outside
> > > of the broker process ?
> > >
> > > Enrico
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Penghui
> > > > On Apr 21, 2021, 7:24 PM +0800, Enrico Olivelli <eolive...@gmail.com
> >,
> > > wrote:
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > Pulsar 2.8.0 is coming near to the release and we want
> transactions to
> > > > > be "production ready".
> > > > >
> > > > > If I understand correctly now we start the Transaction Coordinator
> > > > > service inside the Broker.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does it make sense to have the option to run the TC as a separate
> > > > > service, as we do for the Functions Worker ?
> > > > >
> > > > > For instance in a big cluster, with many brokers, an user may like
> to
> > > > > dedicate machines to the role of Transaction Coordinator and do not
> > > > > serve all of the usual Broker activities.
> > > > >
> > > > > The same problem will also go into the Helm Chart, it would be
> better
> > > > > to have the ability to configure the transaction related services
> with
> > > > > specific options.
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you think ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Enrico
> > >
>

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