Hi -

Here is a good description of MERIT - 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#merit 
<http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html#merit>

Regards,
Dave

> On Aug 29, 2018, at 11:06 AM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> Hi -
> 
> The explanation should be more carefully worded. Contributors do not self 
> nominate themselves. The PMC will notice contributors who have proven 
> themselves. A discussion follows on private@ to avoid any embarrassment. 
> Assuming that the VOTE passes if it is for PMC then a NOTICE is given to the 
> IPMC or the Board. This is a 72 hour LAZY ACK in the extremely rare case 
> someone knows something that is bad. You don’t need to explain these details. 
> Once the new Committer and/or PMC has been elected. The PMC will contact them 
> off list to make sure that they accept. This is followed by an announcement 
> on the dev@ list. The whole point here is to avoid public embarrassment which 
> could cause contributors to leave.
> 
> For example, the DISCUSSION (on private@) could be like so:
> 1. [DISCUSS] Jane Doe for PMC - she’s done some significant work and it is 
> all high quality. She is good to work with and always helpful with users on 
> the mailing list.
> 2. RE: - She’s great +1
> 3. RE2: - I’m not sure as she’s only been active for one month. Let’s wait a 
> few months to see if her contributions are sustained.
> … two months,
> 4. [DISCUSS] Jane Doe for PMC/Committer - it’s been two months and she’s 
> still helping with code and users. Is it time.
> 5. RE: yes!
> 6. RE2: yes!
> … 72 hours
> 7. [VOTE] ….
> … 72 hours
> 8. [NOTICE]
> … 72 hours
> 9. Invite Jane
> 10. Jane is surprised and accepts
> 11. Announce on Dev@ and maybe twitter.
> 
> So, you can see ways to tweak your language.
> 
> Regards,
> Dave
> 
>> On Aug 29, 2018, at 12:16 AM, Matteo Merli <matteo.me...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 5:50 PM Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is very detailed and looks good with one important omission.
>>> 
>>> How does one go on from being a contributor to committer / PMC status?
>>> There should be a description about that.
>>> 
>>> Please discuss!
>>> 
>> 
>> That is a very good point. I have added a couple of sections to the
>> "Contributing" page in the PR:
>> * https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/pull/2459
>> * Preview link:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/blob/0515a9a12a77ca6ffdc8587125e21a32cdb61291/site2/website/contributing.md
>> 
>> Also reporting it here for convenience:
>> 
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ## Becoming a committer
>> 
>> Committers are community members that have write access to the project’s
>> repositories, i.e., they can modify the code, documentation, and website
>> by themselves and also accept other contributions.
>> 
>> There is no strict protocol for becoming a committer. Candidates for new
>> committers are typically people that are active contributors and
>> community members.
>> 
>> Being an active community member means participating on mailing list
>> discussions, helping to answer questions, verifying release candidates,
>> being respectful towards others, and following the meritocratic
>> principles of community management. Since the
>> [Apache Way](https://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/)
>> has a strong focus on the project community, this part is very important.
>> 
>> Of course, contributing code and documentation to the project is
>> important as well. A good way to start is contributing improvements, new
>> features, or bug fixes. You need to show that you take responsibility
>> for the code that you contribute, add tests and documentation, and help
>> maintaining it.
>> 
>> Candidates for new committers are suggested by current committers or PMC
>> members, and voted upon by the PMC.
>> 
>> If you would like to become a committer, you should engage with the
>> community and start contributing to Apache Pulsar in any of the above
>> ways. You might also want to talk to other committers and ask for their
>> advice and guidance.
>> 
>> ## Becoming member of PMC
>> 
>> The PMC is the project governance body. Committers or contributors that
>> have demonstrated continued involvement with the community can be
>> nominated to become members of the PMC.
>> 
>> PMC members nominate new contributors to the project as either
>> committers or as new PMC members, and PMC members cast votes on electing
>> new committers or PMC members to the project. PMC members also have
>> binding votes on any project matters. Refer to
>> [ASF PMCs governance](http://www.apache.org/foundation/governance/pmcs.html)
>> for a more detailed explanation of the duties and roles of the PMC.
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> 
>>> This is better and ties in with my main question above.
>>> 
>> 
>> Created a separate PR to update the "team" page:
>> https://github.com/apache/incubator-pulsar/pull/2470
>> 
>> Matteo
>> --
>> Matteo Merli
>> <mme...@apache.org>
> 

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