Hi Ilyse,
...
I would like to help out in this regard. But I must say that in spite
of the wealth of text on the "How Can I Help?" type of pages on the
OOo site, it is not very easy to figure out where someone like me -
who is NOT a programmer (but I am long-time veteran software tester) -
fits into this testing process.
*sigh* we know, that our web pages are not perfect. But at least you did
the right thing, ask at the list ;-)
...
My Q's:
1. What skill level of "testers" is being sought? Absolutely no
description is provided. Does "testers" mean "people with
programming-level skills" rather than "end-users who know how to
conduct structured, deductive tests and post good bug reports"??
"end users who know ..." is the level to start with doing QA. I think
most of us belong to this category.
If there are skilled programmers, they are welcome asw ell. Automated
testing (qatesttool and qadevooo) would be the place for programmers.
Scripts could be enhanced or new scripts could be provided etc.
2. If the answer to #1 is "end-users can participate" ... where in
tarnation does one download the latest build for testing? The
"Download" link at the top of all www.OO.org pages leads me back to
2.0/X-11 (i.e., to the release versions). The "Documents and Files"
link on the page at http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/testing.html
does not have any builds. The "Documents and Files" link on the page
at http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList does not have
any builds to download & install either (though I did very dutifully
download the duplicates list and will study it). And the link of the
same name on the page at
http://porting.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectDocumentList is no help
either.
In general, "latest builds for testing" are the developer snapshots:
http://download.openoffice.org/680/index.html
There are non available at the moment, but we would provide snapshots
again in a couple of weeks or days.
We try to announce availability of new snapshots vie QA project's
announcements. (If you are observer at the qa project, this will be
shown at "My Pages")
I would like to point out, in response to messages I've noticed saying
that "more testers are needed" ... a lot of media coverage was earned
by the release of 2.0. That's how I heard about openOffice.org. This
project is therefore now about to attract in a lot more end-users and
"in-betweeners" like me (i.e., not a programmer, but am a computer
professional [database consultant]). Especially those of us who are
technically oriented, though we may not be C programmers, I'm sure we
have much to contribute in the pre-release QA process.
I totally agree .. and QA is one of the ways to go ;-)
So, in closing, can someone point me to the individual/forum/mailing
list where one can help with suggestions for rewriting site text and
perhaps creating a better "Welcome, How to Get Started" page for
non-geek newcomers?
You are at the right list, when speaking about QA web pages. One of the
problem is, that long term members often don't see the need for more
easy information and rather focus on doing the "real job".
But you are welocme to send your suggestions.
André
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