Hi folks,
I have now tracked the import problem of these certain graphics from the
MS Word format in issue 95216. Initially I have targeted this to OO 3.x,
because it is not a regression as Stefan already evaluated.
Regards
Michael
Mike Hall wrote:
> Stephan,
>
> Thanks also from me for your careful analysis. I apologise to the extent
> that I have contributed to the confusion.
>
> Proper interworking between Word and Writer is crucial. Around 50% of
> the problems referred to me over the past couple of years have been in
> this area. Based on an email from a Sun employee which seemed to confirm
> the graphics import issue as a regression, it seemed important to stop
> communities with mixed usage upgrading. Explaining which documents you
> could exchange and which not would have been too complex. Waiting the 7
> weeks for 3.0.1 would have been better.
>
> Of course we all appreciate the huge amount of effort put into 3.0 and
> the new functionality. Nothing should take away from that. However,
> several of my users will equally complain about anything that has
> changed because it confuses them for a while and I wouldn't want to
> compound that with a regression that they were very likely to experience.
>
> I hope that helps to explain where I was coming from.
>
> Mike
>
> Stefan Baltzer wrote:
>> Hi, All!
>>
>> I just spoke to Fredrik and he told me that the issue 93340 he mentioned
>> is about Office 2003 XML EXPORT. So beside the number ("2003") it has
>> nothing to do with the .doc graphics-lost-on-import problem that sparked
>> this discussion.
>>
>> However,...
>> ONE issue to discourage upgrading entirely? - This sounds very exaggerated.
>> ONE issue overweighting all fixes and features, all developers blood
>> sweat and tears on the road to OOo 3.0?
>>
>> Mhmm, exaggerated still does not sound like the best word for this
>> view... :-(
>>
>>
>> Here is my evaluation:
>> Concerning the graphics, the document opens ALIKE in OOo 2.4.1 and OOo 3.0:
>> - 2 graphics are not displayed, instead the second graphic is displayed
>> three times.
>> - Same findings when re-saving the document with MS Word 2002 or MS Word
>> 2003(XP) before import
>>
>> This makes NO REGRESSION!
>>
>> Re-saved with the latest MS Word (2007) or with MS Word 2000, all
>> graphics are shown correctly after import.
>> Both OOo 2.4.1 and OOo 3.0. Again, this makes NO REGRESSION.
>>
>> Now, what about the document layout?
>>
>> The original document has 2 pages.
>> Opened in OOo 2.4.1, it has 3 pages
>> Opened in OOo 3.0, it has 2 pages
>>
>> -> Not a regression, but some kind of fixed issue!
>>
>> So if we reduce the recommendation of OOo 3.0 to this very case...
>>
>> ...we can recommend OOo 3.0 because it imports this document BETTER that
>> OOo 2.4.1
>>
>> And after issuezilla decides do co-operate again, the problem will get
>> evaluated and tracked.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Stefan Baltzer
>> QA Writer
>>
>>
>> Mike Hall wrote:
>>
>>> This is certainly enough to discourage upgrade to 3.0 in any community
>>> with a mixture of Word and Writer users, since Word XP is the usual
>>> default format for exchange of documents. It isn't possible to check
>>> just now, but I hope this issue is a stopper for 3.0.1.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>>
>>> Fredrik Haegg wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, this is a regression. I wrote an issue for it (i93340)
>>>> but it wasn't flagged as a showstopper.
>>>>
>>>> Best wishes
>>>> / Fredrik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/14/08 04:44, Zhu Lihua wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Regina,
>>>>>
>>>>> I open the document with Ms-Office2003, and save it as another document.
>>>>> then open it with OOo3.0RC4, the content is still not correct.
>>>>> Which version of MS-Office are you using? I tried it with Ms-Office2007,
>>>>> I got the same result as you said.
>>>>>
>>>>> The document is created with older version of Ms-Office, and we can find
>>>>> some other documents like this. I think maybe this is not mistakes in the
>>>>> document, but some differences between word 2003 and word 2007 which
>>>>> OOo3.0 can not handle it correctly. I'm no developer, so I'm just
>>>>> guessing if there is the possibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> ------------------
>>>>> Lihua
>>>>> 2008-10-14
>>>>>
>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> 发件人：Regina Henschel
>>>>> 发送日期：2008-10-13 19:17:49
>>>>> 收件人：dev
>>>>> 抄送：
>>>>> 主题：Re: [qa-dev] severe interoperability issue, can this stop the
>>>>> releaseof OOo3.0 final?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Zhu Lihua,
>>>>>
>>>>> Zhu Lihua schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We found a severe interoperability issue. Data loss when open an MS
>>>>>> document with pictures.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please open the document below with OOo3.0RC4. You'll find the first
>>>>>> picture are lost, instead, there is a resized image of the 2nd
>>>>>> picture. And the 2nd picture in page 2 is also replaced by a resized
>>>>>> image of that picture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The sample document:
>>>>>> http://ftp.ch2000.com.cn/tdftp/OpenOffice.org/qa/2.doc
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> It seems to be something wrong with the document. If I open it in Word
>>>>> and save it without editing to a new name, the resulting document opens
>>>>> fine in OOo3.0.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Regina
>>>>>
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