Hi André,
André Schnabel a écrit :
Hi,

some of you might have read Thorsten Ziehm's blog at [1].
(Side note: I wanted to summarize the discussion and bring it to this list, but I've been at LinuxTag Berlin for some days - not able to review the mails.)

And a special thank you very much on my side and another thank you for bringing the thread here.
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What I'd like to see in the future is:
- joint and better coordinated efforts from QA and development to *fix* bugs

Trying to contribute in some QA places, I would like a clear how-to achieve this. On the last time I've had the impression that whatever the tools or the manual tests you run, they are not useful or not the good way to help. I had the impression that developers were not happy because the QA of cws took to much time, do we lack people here, skills or is it on bug triage ? May be having a more concrete picture on where we are needed would help to better employ our energy ;)

- the common goal of the project to work on bugfixing (instead of the separate statement of the QA project that fixing bugs is not within our responsibility)

Yes and on a side note, I've already heard from some developers that QA is not within their responsibility, so yes, it links to what you said above, a better work together.

- the commitment to fix bugs even in old features (and not only regressions). Each feature once was new. Following our current policy you just need to wait long enough to counter the regression argument.

How could we help?. Is there a vision on how the workflow of the volunteers is organized in the QA project or every body is like me, working on confirming issues, then closing verified, then manual testing depending of my mood of the day. May be some management is needed here also to better organize our forces?

Joost has bloged on the QA week-end you (the DE project) organized, I'm sure it was very interesting and productive. May be it could become an event for the QA project too?

Kind regards
Sophie


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