Hello Thorsten, *,

Thorsten Ziehm schrieb:
> Hi Mechtilde,
> 
> Mechtilde wrote:
>> Hello,

<snip />

>> so my idea is a better *active* flow of information between QA and
>> development and reverse.
> 
> More communication is needed, I am on your side. But how? Without
> defining ways, we cannot handle such mass of work with the whole
> community.

I think a good first step will be to do the communication between the
I-Teams and the corresponding QA-Teams.

Community members who want to contribute are invited to this teams (esp.
via their l10n-Teams)
> 
>>> Here we have to work together to find out, what information has to be
>>> changed or is missing. For example we have to work together to find a
>>> way how to handle the mass of open issues. This will not be an easy
>>> task. ;-) I do not have any solution.
>>
>> My suggestion is that members of the QA Team described at [1] to [8]
>> should have there responsibilities of the development.
>>
>> This should lead to have influence of the priority of issues.
>>
>> On the other side new code can easier be tested because development know
>> how can do this.
>>
>> A good communication minimized the missunderstanding about problems.
>>
>> We need not only short ways by Sun internal but also between development
>> and QA for Quality Management. IRC and direct mails are good tools.
> 
> Some good points. But how this can be realized with all community
> members?

see above

> 
>> The Base Team is there on a good way.
> 
> Why do you think this is a good example?
> -> good quality of the application
> -> less regressions
+1
> -> less bugs
> -> good communication
+1
> -> ...


Christian (cloph) wrote some good points in his mail. I will citate.

Developers should not be bothered with QA.
The developers should .. be interested in QA.
It should be clear what QA-members can ... do to verify the
changes. In the cws and in future to prevent regressions.

</citate>

One goal should be to do these things also in the other teams. this will
be a great step for the collabaration.
> Thorsten


Kind regards

Mechtilde



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