Jonathan,

Points 1, 2 & 3 - yes I agree.

There are lots of people on this dev list who could opt in to help on the
docs for the Java side. I know why I don't have time - because the 0-10
broker is taking #1 priority and represents a substantial investment in
Qpid.

I'm not the 'plan' person for Qpid - I share what I'm doing/what I know is
going on. So I guess if there's not enough community input on the doc
migration thats a separate issue. I don't have time right now, but maybe
other people do ?

I don't really follow why you want to move the wiki URL - that would be
quite inconvenient for the links we use. I don't object to moving to the new
website, but I'd like to keep a reference to any docs that have not been
taken over.

Marnie

On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Jonathan Robie
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 08:56 +0100, Marnie McCormack wrote:
> > Hi Jonathan,
> >
> > I'm not asking for updates on the wiki, but for it to stay up and linked
> to
> > until the docs have been converted from it/moved over.
>
> I think we agree that:
>
> 1. The Wiki needs to be kept available for archival purposes
> 2. It needs to be possible to link into the pages of the Wiki archives
> 3. We will not update the archives
>
> I think you're asking that we keep the archives precisely where they
> are, and not use qpid.apache.org for the new web site until the Java
> broker docs have been converted. I'd like to give the archived Wiki a
> URL that let's us reference it from the main qpid.apache.org pages, e.g.
>
> qpid.apache.org/wiki/archives
>
> I did an initial conversion of the Java broker docs months ago and have
> been asking for feedback and help. So far, no dice. Those converted docs
> are available on the new site, I'd be glad to point to the Wiki archives
> for the Java broker instead if you prefer.
>
> > The 0-10 broker implementation is the main priority for now and requiring
> > much effort, the docs will need to wait a while until thats in good
> shape.
> > Realistically, a few weeks more work on the broker I think.
> > I understand you want the java team to work on this - there are other
> Java
> > devs on this list who might have time to do this though ?
> >
> > From a time point of view, I'm not objecting to your plans just asking
> for
> > the wiki to stay put a while.
>
> Reading that, I don't hear any plan to have anyone do any work on the
> Java broker docs in any specified time frame. If nobody has done that in
> the last six months, what's going to change to make them do that now?
>
> The material in the Java broker docs I posted came directly from the
> Wiki, I tried to organize it a little. Ideally, I'd like someone to
> spend some time fixing that up and make it more usable, I spent time
> creating a book out of the Wiki documentation for the Java broker
> because I had hoped it would be helpful, but I'd also be happy to link
> to the Wiki archives for the Java broker docs instead.
>
> Jonathan
>
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