I just meant that many of the docbook pages (mostly Java related) aren't
complete and we don't link to them as prominently, which won't help their
chance of being ranked similarly. We also probably aren't helping their
cause by having both possible results in the first place.

We don't link directly to the converted FAQ page from the website menu for
instance, we link to the wiki export. To get to the docbook based FAQ you
have to go through the html or pdf links on the documentation page. The wiki
exported FAQ page has TOC heading based internal links to all the answers
which also probably aids its chances in the results. The docbook html export
currently has pages with filenames based on chapter and section numbers
rather than contextual name, making links to them (of which I doubt there
are [m]any) contain less information (qpid-java-faq.html vs ch01s02.html in
this specific case). 

These kind of things will contribute to differing results (searching for
'qpid port broker uses at runtime' for example gives a different result and
has the java docbook pdf as the top hit, with the old wiki export
3rd...whereas with just 'port broker uses at runtime' the pdf is on page 2
of results). We can surely improve the situation by finishing the docbook
off and optimising links and page filenames etc with search engines in mind,
it will just require time.

Robbie

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Marnie McCormack [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: 27 August 2010 18:41
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Documentation - Google hits
> 
> Do you mean this is item specific - it seemed to me from other searches
> that
> only the top level strings come back in the first searches and that
> text in
> the docbook pages doesn't score highly ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Marnie
> 
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Robbie Gemmell
> <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > Basically it just still needs finished, and only once its more
> > prominent on the website (the FAQ links still point to the wiki
> > export) will it start being favoured for search results.
> >
> > Robbie
> >
> > On 27 August 2010 16:16, Marnie McCormack
> >  <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm wondering if anyone on the list can shed list on why the
> details
> > > contained in the new docbook format doesn't come back on the front
> page
> > of
> > > Google search results - where the wiki previously did.
> > >
> > > For example, information on the Qpid Java FAQ comes back from cwiki
> but
> > not
> > > from the docbook (try Google for 'port broker uses at runtime' and
> you'll
> > > see what I mean).
> > >
> > > Is there something we need/ought to do to get the docbook stuff
> further
> > up
> > > the index ?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Marnie
> > >
> >
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