On 03/09/2013 09:24 AM, Fraser Adams wrote:
On 08/03/13 21:41, Andrew Stitcher wrote:
. Anyway if it is anything the dev list is for discussion amongst the
qpid developers themselves (rather than developers who use qpid) and
surely they are the ons who "get to vote" about the build system.
That's a fair point, but all I'm arguing for is good communication. So
users don't get a vote - that's fine, but at least if they are able to
register any worries about the potential impact then the scale of the
short term support problem that might occur moving users who need to
build qpid themselves will be better known. If we break something that
users depend upon without communicating that fact then we risk pushing
them away.

I agree completely. Issues that affect 'users' should be discussed on the user list. The build system is absolutely one of those things (since the Apache Qpid community only publishes source builds for c++).

The lack of awareness of the reasons for moving to cmake and the eventual removal of autotools is probably itself a result of a failure to adequately inform users of plans.

I am in support of Alan's proposal and agree with Fraser that we need to communicate with users. As far as I understood it, the proposal was to remove autotools *after* 0.22, not for it.

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