On 25/03/13 20:21, Rajith Attapattu wrote:
f management tools that doesn't play nice with both
brokers.
I'm worried about adding another to the mix given that the Java broker
seems to have a different strategy for management.

Well yes and no. From what I've seen the Java broker has a pluggable approach (notwithstanding changes to the plugin API, but that's largely by the by).

As I said previously I released a QmfManagementPlugin for the Java Broker the other week and had that working with both qpid-config and the QMF GUI and in my setup I had I mixed economy of C++ and Java brokers controlled from a single management GUI. To my mind that seems like progress.

Ultimately the main differences we some differences in the underlying models - but nothing that appears insurmountable given modest effort.

At that point we'd no longer have "tools that doesn't play nice with both brokers " and the Java, Python and Ruby stuff would all work. At that point it would seem sensible to move forward working through the strategy for AMQP 1.0

It would seem nice to move forward from some point of (at least modest) consistency, then we can start as we intend to carry on - with a unified view.

Well that's my vision anyway and that's what I've been banging on about on the mailing lists for a fair time.


My "day job" is more of an architecture persuasion and as I've said several times I've been on the receiving end of having to make choices between products and to be frank I've sometimes struggled to justify Qpid primarily because of the ad hoc management (I refer to command line tools as not being very "CEO friendly"). I got away with it because of the performance, but the bottom line is that I suspect I'm not the only one in that position, which is one of the reasons I wrote the GUI and it's the reason that I made it "mobile friendly" too 'cause nice shiny page transitions catch the eye of casual observers (which is often where company "decision makers" sit). I think getting this stuff right is just as important as the underlying technology if we're serious about promoting AMQP and Qpid and getting as wide a buy in across the messaging industry as possible.

Frase







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