Hi Robbie,

> (snip)
> Either way, our html export seems to be screwed currently.
> 
> What would we like to do about this?
> 
> I have said previously in the website threads that I would actually quite 
> like to
> get rid of the HTML export and move any remaining user documentation of
> real use to the main documentation/website, deleting most of what is on the
> wiki, and subsequently using the actual wiki (rather than an export) for only
> the things that it is best suited to going forward.

I agree with your approach - all user-intended stuff should be in the main 
doc/website area. We should have some discussion later about what the wiki is 
suited for.

> As such, I think my choice would just be to get
> https://cwiki.apache.org/qpid/ redirected to the actual Confluence wiki at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid just now and then start
> down the path of clearing most of the existing rubbish out.

+1 on that too.

-Steve

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> From: gmcdonald <[email protected]>
> Date: 18 June 2013 12:56
> Subject: IMPORTANT: Major Confluence Upgrade Coming Soon. Please
> review test instance now.
> To: [email protected], [email protected]
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> Hi All,
> 
> If your project has a Confluence Wiki then this is an IMPORTANT
> announcement for you and your project. Please read this email carefully.
> 
> NOTICE: The ASF Confluence instance is planned to be upgraded this
> Saturday 22nd June 2013. Judging by the time taken to upgrade the test
> instance, please expect the service to be in a down or read only state for the
> entire day.
> 
> This email is to let you know that a test upgrade has already occurred and is
> live for you to play with now. This gives us all an opportunity to test for
> stability as well as any upgrade/plugin issues that might have happened along
> the way.
> 
> Our current confluence wiki is at version 3.4.9 from way back in February
> 2011 and Atlassian have released a further 45 updates along the way,
> including another 2 major versions.
> The test instance has been upgraded several times along the way, with
> database surgery, operating system and server changes along the way.
> 
> There have been casualties. Most notably is the Autoexport Plugin has had to
> be disabled permanently as during extensive testing, this plugin stopped
> working on version 4.3. Templates and Macros are also affected with major
> changes from wiki markup to xhtml amongst other things. Some plugins
> survived with upgrades all the way whilst some have been
> decommissioned/replaced or have changed to 'paid for' versions that we
> need to sort out licensing for. Nothing major that I can tell, but that's 
> where
> you lot come in with your testing of your own spaces.
> 
> Please familiarise yourself with what's new in Confluence 5.1 at
> https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DOC/Confluence+5.1+Release+No
> tes
> and also take a good look around our upgraded test instance. Do not worry
> about mucking anything up on the test instance as that is what it is there 
> for.
> Any changes/additions made will be lost on Saturday when a new migration
> will take place. The current confluence version will remain online in a read
> only state until the new version is completed.
> 
> A jira ticket has been raised at
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-6406 where projects can add
> comments on any issues they are having with the test instance as compared
> to their old site. Just problems only please, do not turn it into a how to use
> confluence 5 thread. In addition, if there are any features that you currently
> use that do not work in the test instance, please replicate the feature in the
> current production TEST space so that I can test them all in the one place
> along the way. (Ask if you need create page permissions to
> cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TEST )
> 
> It may be possible in the future to replace Autoexport by playing around with
> the API to export the pages but this is not a priority, nor is it supported. 
> We
> warned projects long ago that the Autoexport Tool would be incompatible
> with future Confluence versions and that time has now come.
> 
> Ok so, please test and report to the Jira Issue mentioned anything amiss with
> your space. Go to https://cwiki2.apache.org/confluence and have a play
> around. You have 3 DAYS to report anything you find.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Gavin (ASF Infra)

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