But Casey says the _client_ broke the contract. It's irrelevant where things 
come from when the client breaks the contracts. 



On Jan 16, 2011, at 11:06 PM, Carl Eastlund wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Matthias Felleisen
> <matth...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
>> 
>> On Jan 15, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Casey Klein wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Stevie Strickland
>>> <sstri...@ccs.neu.edu> wrote:
>>>> On Jan 15, 2011, at 12:19 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
>>>>> I think that we are just throwing up stumbling blocks. It is really a
>>>>> design choice (does a reprovide "carry over" the contract or does it
>>>>> put a new one on there?) and I seriously doubt there are any places
>>>>> where someone does a reprovide intending to change the contract in
>>>>> this manner. To the contrary, I expect that nearly every place where
>>>>> someone does a reprovide, they indented to use the exact same contract
>>>>> (with different parties now).
>>>> 
>>>> This is possible, but _which_ parties?  Do you wish to export internals 
>>>> through an external interface that should now take on the positive blame, 
>>>> so that you don't leak your internals (via module names and such used as 
>>>> blame parties)?  This seems to me what you'd want for something like redex 
>>>> [...]
>>> 
>>> No, that's not the use case.
>>> 
>>> There are three modules, each of which is an external interface:
>>> 
>>> 1. redex/reduction-semantics, which provides the non-GUI portion of Redex,
>>> 2. redex/pict, which provides the typesetting utilities, and
>>> 3. redex, which provides all of redex/reduction-semantics and
>>> redex/pict, plus some more.
>>> 
>>> The redex module does an all-from-out provide on what it gets from
>>> redex/reduction-semantics and redex/pict, making it the negative party
>>> on the contracts. When a redex client breaks one of the contracts,
>>> redex gets blamed instead of the client.
>> 
>> This sounds like a plain bug.
> 
> That's not a bug.  The redex module entered into a contract, then
> passed those values on to the client without protecting them at all.
> If something goes wrong, redex is to blame.
> 
> --Carl

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