On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Neil Toronto <neil.toro...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/05/2011 02:49 PM, Robby Findler wrote: >> >> Matthew, Neil, and I have been talking about how to resolve the >> dependency problem. I think that the our thinking was that the best >> plan is to break out a "pict" library that both slideshow and drracket >> can safely depend on, and have the icons library depend on that. > > > Yes. Then DrRacket could build its icons as it currently does, by combining > primitive icons. Updating the primitive icons would only require changing > the SVG sources and re-rendering the PNGs. > > >> We didn't consider putting some of it into 'meta', tho. That makes a >> lot of sense to me. Neil, Matthew, how does that sound? > > > It could be the wrong thing to do in the future. > > I don't think it would help much now with size, if that's the issue, because > the SVGs are only 400-800K uncompressed. (As XML, they compress well.) PNG > renderings of the SVG icons in various colors and at various sizes take up > almost all the space, and these have to be in any distribution that includes > icons/main.rkt. > > If Racket could render SVGs, we could save space in every distribution, > allow icons to be arbitrarily colorized, and render them at arbitrary sizes > instead of just sizes between 8 and 64. This would also make it wrong to > move the SVGs to `meta'. > > I briefly looked into rendering SVGs just now. Apparently, Cairo can't do it > natively. We'd need to use a third-party library like librsvg. > Alternatively, I could make partial support for SVG rendering into a holiday > project, for after the FLOPS deadline. I think our dc<%>s and brushes can > handle everything in the icon SVGs except blur, which isn't strictly needed. > > At any rate, SVG-backed picts would be useful for more than just icons.
This would be the best thing. But I fear it wouldn't be done by the release, so we probably need an intermediate solution. The meta collection would be for dependency/cleanliness issues, not size. Robby >> Name: I think it is called the icons collection because that's where >> the icons were before when Neil generalized things. > > > Right. The logos were already there. > > >> We could make a >> 'sprites' collection and then move maybe even move planetcute into >> that collection? > > > I'd be okay with a `sprites' collection: `sprites/planetcute', > `sprites/icons', `sprites/logos', etc. > >> On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Eli Barzilay<e...@barzilay.org> wrote: >>> >>> * The "Making New SVG Icons" section should really be elsewhere -- and >>> IMO, this kind of text should go into some readme file... > > > I agree. It's on my to-do list now. > > >>> * And a minor picky point: when I compare >>> "magnifying-glass-left-shiny.svg" and >>> "magnifying-glass-left-diffuse.svg", they are both cropped at the >>> top (at least the way that they're rendered in Emacs), > > > That's odd. They shouldn't be. Their page sizes are the same as every other > icon, so I'd say the problem is in whatever library Emacs uses to render > them. > > >>> but in >>> addition they're at different places (which is visible in the PNG >>> rendered files too). I wouldn't have pointed it out, but it might >>> be some bug in your rendering script. > > > I centered the icon using the entire picture, but centering it using just > the magnifying glass (without the handle) is worth trying. > > Neil T _________________________________________________ For list-related administrative tasks: http://lists.racket-lang.org/listinfo/dev
