I don't care about typed definitions. And yes, in an untyped world, you'd write
(define (sum lt)
(cond
[(promise? lt) lt]
[else (+ (sum (car lt)) (sum (cdr lt)))]))
Note the mistake you made in forcing too early.
On Jul 6, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Sam Tobin-Hochstadt wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Matthias Felleisen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> I can't think of such a primitive other than force, for which it is okay.
>> Can you be concrete?
>
> Here's a type definition;
>
> (define-type LTree
> (U (Promise Integer) (Cons LTree LTree)))
>
> This is just a tree of integer promises, but to traverse it, we need
> to write code like:
>
> (define (sum lt)
> (cond [(cons? lt) (+ (sum (car lt)) (sum (cdr lt)))]
> [else (force lt)]))
>
> If `cons?` raised an error when applied to promises, we'd be out of luck.
>
>> On Jul 6, 2012, at 5:16 PM, Robby Findler wrote:
>>
>>> What do you do if you have a function that accepts either promises or
>>> lists? Then, you might want total predicates.
>>>
>>> Robby
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Matthias Felleisen <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I just realized that Racket already suffers from the problem that
>>>> polymorphic contracts introduce.
>>>>
>>>> As Stephen is working out right now, Racketeers want to introduce laziness
>>>> to speed up programs on occasion. We have been told for decades that delay
>>>> and force are our friends. In a sense, this performance-refactoring
>>>> problem is exactly the same problem as incremental type refactoring aka
>>>> gradual typing. You want to add laziness in a transparent manner -- or if
>>>> you make a mistake, it should blow up on you.
>>>>
>>>> But it doesn't:
>>>>
>>>>> Welcome to DrRacket, version 5.3.0.13--2012-07-05(467bde3a/d) [3m].
>>>>> Language: racket.
>>>>>> (null? (delay (/ 1 0)))
>>>>> #f
>>>>>> (zero? (delay (/ 1 0)))
>>>>> . . zero?: contract violation
>>>>> expected: number?
>>>>> given: #<promise:unsaved-editor12957:6:9>
>>>>
>>>> For some reasons I don't understand, our ancestors (let's not use their
>>>> name anymore) decided to make some primitives resistant to promises and
>>>> some aren't. Now imagine you accidentally package a null in a delay, which
>>>> may happen when you use lazy combinators:
>>>>
>>>>>> (null? (delay null))
>>>>> #f
>>>>
>>>> Your program changes meaning and off it goes and signals an error. You
>>>> don't get a faster program, you get a program that raises the wrong kind
>>>> of error.
>>>>
>>>> What they should have done is signal an exception when strict primitives
>>>> receive a promise.
>>>>
>>>> I take it is too late to correct such a {\HUGE HUGE} historical blunder.
>>>> -- Matthias
>>>>
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