On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Erin Noe-Payne
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Chris Geer <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Matt Franklin <
> [email protected]
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 2:32 PM, Chris Geer <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Matt Franklin <
> > > [email protected]>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Chris Geer <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Erin Noe-Payne
> > > >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 1:16 PM, Matt Franklin <
> > > >> [email protected]
> > > >> >> >wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 5:32 PM, Chris Geer <
> > [email protected]
> > > >
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > > I've done a first cut at adding some new CXF based REST web
> > > services
> > > >> >> > which
> > > >> >> > > use a different data model
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > As part of RAVE-924, I have created a new page model for web.
> >  As I
> > > >> >> > was building it, it occurred to me that there are a couple of
> > > >> >> > different ways we will want/need to use the REST interface for
> > > Page:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > 1) As an export mechanism
> > > >> >> > 2) As an OMDL export mechanism
> > > >> >> > 3) As an entry point for applications who want to render
> widgets
> > > >> >> > (including the portal)
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > IMO, #1 is straight forward.  For number 2, I was thinking that
> > it
> > > >> >> > would be better if there was an OMDL mime type so the logical
> > > mapping
> > > >> >> > remains the same (/api/pages/{id}) as in the regular export.
> >  What
> > > >> >> > does everyone think about using application/vnd.omdl+xml?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> +1 here, I think mime type is the right approach. I have no
> opinion
> > > on
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> actual label of the mime type - that looks fine.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > +1
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > The hard part is how to deal with rendering.  For this "mode"
> we
> > > will
> > > >> >> > need to export the Wookie iFrame URL (which is per-user), the
> > > >> >> > openSocial security token and the OpenSocial metadata.  These
> > > require
> > > >> >> > a User to be authenticated and should not be exposed across
> > things
> > > >> >> > like the OMDL or Page export.  What would everyone think about
> > the
> > > >> >> > following url for this case?:  /api/pages/{id}?render=true
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> My gut reaction is that I dont like having a query string
> parameter
> > > to
> > > >> >> dictate this. It seems like it would be better for the endpoint
> to
> > be
> > > >> >> context aware somehow. Possibly check the request and deliver the
> > > >> >> render-ready data set if its coming from an authenticated rave
> > user?
> > > I
> > > >> need
> > > >> >> to think about that a bit more...
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I agree with Erin, not a fan of the query string. I'd rather see
> > > >> > /api/pages/{id}/rendered or something similar.
> >
>
> I also do not like /api/pages/{id}/rendered.  Url parts should be
> semantically representative of resources, not of state or action.
>
> I'm now thinking...
> /api/pages/0 - this is a representation of the generic page for export
> /api/users/erin/pages/0 - this is a representation of the page in the
> context of user erin, with user-specific data needed for rendering
> attached.
>

I like this in concept but let's play it out. Since all pages are user
specific (I think) why would the user link be the rendered? Maybe we don't
have a /api/pages/??

What about something like /api/user/erin/renderedpages/0

That would make it a resource and make more sense.

Chris

>
>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Is the intent to return the wookie and OS stuff in the same
> > response?
> > > I'm
> > > >> > not a fan of that, especially considering some people won't have
> > > wookie
> > > >> > installed at all (or OS).
> > > >>
> > > >> The approach I was going to take is to inject all the providers in
> the
> > > >> current context into a service and when the render condition is hit,
> > > >> have the provider return an object that extends the 'core'
> > > >> RegionWidget with its own properties.  This way, there is no
> coupling
> > > >> to any specific provider.  You would be able to have 0...n
> providers.
> > > >>
> > > >> >Maybe it makes more sense to have a different web
> > > >> > service for rendering by each provider???
> > > >>
> > > >> This will end up causing serious performance bottlenecks in an
> already
> > > >> taxed system.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > I don't understand this comment. How would this cause serious
> > performance
> > > > bottlenecks? Having additional services won't cause any problems, and
> > > they
> > > > should only be called when they are used which would be no more/less
> > than
> > > > if it was a single service. I'm ok not doing this, just not sure what
> > > would
> > > > cause the major performance problems you are referring to.
> > >
> > > I should have been more clear.  As we move away from server-side
> > > templating to client-side MVC to deliver the OOTB interface, these
> > > services will be used by the framework we have running in the browser.
> > >  If it has to make AJAX calls for each widget to get the necessary
> > > information to render the widget, we are going to end up with a bunch
> > > of extra AJAX calls in order to initiate rendering of the the widgets
> > > on a page.  Since widgets are already iFrames and require their own
> > > set of round trips to the widget provider, we now end up in a
> > > situation we have even more network requests to services.
> > >
> > > My thought in returning this information as part of the initial page
> > > REST call is that we can eliminate the extra round trips to the server
> > > to get the provider representation of the widget.
> > >
> >
> > That makes sense. The only thing I want to make sure we can do
> dynamically
> > add (reload) a gadget to a page without re-rendering the whole page.
> >
>
> Absolutely agree. This approach is in line with that goal. The basic
> mechanism would be that the page loads with it's initial state
> (bootstrapped data we are discussing now). If a user adds a new widget then
> the client side state is updated and appropriate rendering happens, as well
> as a post to server to update server side state; no page reload happens.
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> >Otherwise this "core" service has
> > > >> > to know about all the different providers which can be a problem
> > > moving
> > > >> > forward.
> > > >>
> > > >> It shouldn't have to know anything about any specific provider at
> all.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > ok
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Since we want to be able to "bootstrap" the client MVC
> framework
> > > with
> > > >> >> > a pre-fetched & serialized version of the "Page" we will also
> > need
> > > to
> > > >> >> > do the same translation between what is currently returned from
> > the
> > > >> >> > service layer in both the server MVC and the REST API; which
> > raises
> > > >> >> > the question as to wether or not we just abstract all of that
> > > >> >> > functionality in the service layer and only expose the "web"
> > model
> > > >> >> > from that layer or do we create yet another layer to translate
> > from
> > > >> >> > the current service to the web model?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> +0 from me. The work should definitely be happening in some
> service
> > > >> layer
> > > >> >> and keep the controllers light. Beyond that I'm not sure what
> will
> > > end
> > > >> up
> > > >> >> being cleaner.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Thoughts?
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

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