What's the issue, Steven? Ideally the Rave server can be deployed on any
machine — Windows, Linux...anything (and it can be, as far as I know).
We're using a Linux control machine for testing, which is required by
Ansible but also a reasonable choice, I think. The fact that we can't use
Windows as the control environment shouldn't really be an issue, right?

Just to clarify: the Control Machine that the Ansible docs refer to is the
VM that we spin up with Vagrant. Ansible is run on that box, so it's not
talking about the machine that you, the developer, are using. In other
words, users of Windows should still be able to set up the Control Machine
with Vagrant, which is a Linux box, which Ansible then runs on.

For instance, I'm on OSX setting up the Linux Control Machine with Vagrant
that Ansible then runs on. Users of Windows would spin up the Vagrantbox
and also be able to run Ansible.

We could put in the docs: "Rave is tested on a Linux box, although it
should work on every major OS" or something. Does that answer your question?

On Saturday, August 9, 2014, Stanton Sievers <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I was playing around with this as well and ran into a much simpler problem:
> Ansible control machines can't be windows boxes[1].  I'm new to Ansible,
> but as far as I can tell that is a requirement for what is trying to be
> accomplished here.
>
> Can someone verify that's the case?  If so, it's probably worth calling out
> in the README.
>
> Thanks,
> -Stanton
>
> [1]
>
> http://docs.ansible.com/intro_installation.html#control-machine-requirements
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 11:09 AM, Jmeas Apache <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > If you're unable to get past the login screen, I recommend resetting your
> > work environment and trying again. It seems to work...sometimes, but not
> > others.
> >
> > # first, make sure the repository is updated
> > git pull origin
> >
> > # then, reset your working tree
> > git reset --hard origin/angular
> >
> > # now, run vagrant up
> > vagrant up
> >
> > # lastly, grunt dev
> > grunt dev
> >
> > Wait a few minutes (10minutes or so, for it to do cargo:run) and navigate
> > to the URL. It should be up, and you should be able to login. There are
> > multiple require.js errors on numerous pages which might be related to
> the
> > rebase, but otherwise it runs.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Jmeas Apache <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Chris, what issue were you having when you tested it out? Presently I'm
> > > unable to get past the login screen.
> > >
> > > Matt, have you been able to log in since the rebase?
> > >
> > > The latest commit to the Angular branch adds Vagrant and Grunt to the
> > > config, so you can use those if you'd like. Do note that we haven't
> > hooked
> > > up the Grunt task to emit an event when the app is finally running, so
> > you
> > > sort of need to 'guess' when the cargo:run command is complete. Or you
> > can
> > > just run it manually from the VM.
> > >
> > > I'm thinking this require.js issue and inability to log in is likely
> > > related to the failing unit tests that came after the rebase of the
> > Angular
> > > branch.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Chris Geer <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 7:19 AM, Jmeas Apache <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hey Chris,
> > >> >
> > >> > This sounds promising, but I'm unable to follow your instructions on
> > >> making
> > >> > it work.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > *Themissing piece for me at least was having git installed on the
> VM,
> > >> > otherwiseit wasn't seeing the correct branch.*
> > >> >
> > >> > Interesting...the Vagrantbox is configured to map the project's
> > >> directory
> > >> > to the /rave directory on the box. So if you're on the angular
> branch,
> > >> then
> > >> > it, too, should show the files on the Angular branch. This typically
> > >> allows
> > >> > you to work on a repository without having Git installed on the box
> > >> unless
> > >> > you plan to commit/push from the Vagrantbox...but generally there's
> no
> > >> > reason to adopt that new workflow. It wasn't mapping your
> directories
> > >> for
> > >> > you?
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > *I think the issue you were seeing was that you weren't building
> > >> > thesoftware inside the VM..**Two solutions to this, build inside*
> > >> > *the VM or mount your local maven repo into the VM.*
> > >> >
> > >> > Hmm, could you explain this a bit more? Due to the mapping, any
> action
> > >> > taken in either location should affect the other all the same.
> Ansible
> > >> is
> > >> > set up to run the install from the VM itself, though as far as I
> know
> > >> this
> > >> > would be no different from running it outside the box (assuming you
> > have
> > >> > Maven). I'm also SSHing onto the box to run the cargo command. Is
> > there
> > >> > something I'm missing here?
> > >> >
> > >> > Second question: local Maven repo? I'm not too familiar with Maven.
> > Our
> > >> > Ansible role seems to just be pulling down binaries.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > *The last missing pieces is the configuration. Since you are no
> > >> > longeraccessing it from localhost you need to go into the config and
> > >> change
> > >> > therave settings to point to the Shindig address at the VM ip. The
> > >> downside
> > >> > ofthat is it prevents you from running locally with cargo:run.*
> > >> >
> > >> > Would you care to make a PR for this against my branch / provide
> more
> > >> > specific details (which file, which configuration option)? I'm not
> too
> > >> sure
> > >> > what 'config' you're referring to. As an aside, I think whether we
> run
> > >> on
> > >> > the box or locally can be made transparent to the user through
> > >> > Grunt/Vagrant, so the location that we execute commands on shouldn't
> > >> matter
> > >> > *too* much in the end, I hope.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > *To me I think the value of Vagrant in this case is to have it
> > >> > runninginside a more "production" like environment with Tomcat and
> > >> > mysql/mongo forexample. Cargo would be kept locally in my mind.*
> > >> >
> > >> > Interesting thoughts. The base-line use case for Vagrant that we're
> > >> working
> > >> > toward right now is to allow anyone to run this application without
> > >> > installing any dependencies whatsoever locally (aside from, you
> know,
> > >> > Vagrant). I'd like to hear more about this plan, though. Would this
> > >> require
> > >> > the user to have Maven installed locally?
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >> Just to touch on this for a second, if you are trying to do
> development
> > on
> > >> Rave, there are no dependencies required other than Java and Maven.
> > >> Everything is handled automatically through Maven. I'm not sure
> Vagrant
> > >> helps much there, and in fact I think is complicating it for you guys.
> > Now
> > >> in a "production" environment where you want to run inside of Tomcat
> and
> > >> use MySQL/MongoDB, there is some value.
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Chris Geer <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I was able to get it all running, not working correctly, but
> > running.
> > >> The
> > >> > > missing piece for me at least was having git installed on the VM,
> > >> > otherwise
> > >> > > it wasn't seeing the correct branch.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think the issue you were seeing was that you weren't building
> the
> > >> > > software inside the VM. The way cargo works is it looking in the
> > maven
> > >> > repo
> > >> > > for the files to deploy. So since you didn't build inside the VM
> it
> > >> > wasn't
> > >> > > able to find the WAR files to deploy. Two solutions to this, build
> > >> inside
> > >> > > the VM or mount your local maven repo into the VM.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The last missing pieces is the configuration. Since you are no
> > longer
> > >> > > accessing it from localhost you need to go into the config and
> > change
> > >> the
> > >> > > rave settings to point to the Shindig address at the VM ip. The
> > >> downside
> > >> > of
> > >> > > that is it prevents you from running locally with cargo:run.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > To me I think the value of Vagrant in this case is to have it
> > running
> > >> > > inside a more "production" like environment with Tomcat and
> > >> mysql/mongo
> > >> > for
> > >> > > example. Cargo would be kept locally in my mind. To that end, the
> > key
> > >> > would
> > >> > > probably be to point Tomcat to the two deployed war files and
> setup
> > >> the
> > >> > > configuration properly, that would add a lot of value and since
> > Tomcat
> > >> > > would redeploy when the files change it would keep up to date.
> That
> > >> makes
> > >> > > it so you don't have to have all the maven stuff inside the VM.
> You
> > >> could
> > >> > > then add some serious scripting to the vagrant provisioning to
> allow
> > >> you
> > >> > to
> > >> > > force a "restart" which would clear the DB and everything and
> reboot
> > >> > > getting all new data. Just my 2-cents but I think that has
> > potential.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Chris
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Jmeas Apache <
> > [email protected] <javascript:;>>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Gotcha. My thinking now is to use Grunt to start the dev
> > >> environment,
> > >> > > > including starting the webserver, so the cargo:run command
> wasn't
> > >> set
> > >> > up
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > be handled by Vagrant. Maybe this separation of concerns needs a
> > >> bit of
> > >> > > > tweaking.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > For now, you can manually start it by ssh'ing onto the box and
> > >> > executing
> > >> > > > the command in the README from the project directory.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Matt Franklin/Chris Geer, if either of you would have time early
> > >> this
> > >> > > week
> > >> > > > (Mon/Tues?) to chat over IRC or Google Hangouts that'd be really
> > >> useful
> > >> > > for
> > >> > > > us, I think. Once we have the Angular branch up and running, we
> > >> should
> > >> > be
> > >> > > > able to iterate quickly on it. But right now we're having
> trouble
> > >> > getting
> > >> > > > there without help, and the dev emails are a slow process for
> this
> > >> > > blocking
> > >> > > > issue. With luck there's something simple that we're missing!
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Would either of you be available early next week?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:28 AM, Chris Geer <
> [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > >
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > Well, haven't made it that far yet. Given the VM has Tomcat I
> > was
> > >> > > > expecting
> > >> > > > > it to include the full setup. I will have to play with it more
> > to
> > >> > > > > understand exactly what it includes.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 2:42 PM, Jmeas Apache <
> > >> [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > > Cool. Did the cargo:run command throw any errors, or did
> that
> > >> also
> > >> > > work
> > >> > > > > for
> > >> > > > > > you?
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > On Friday, July 4, 2014, Chris Geer <[email protected]
> <javascript:;>>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > I got it running. The issue was I use ssh-agent and
> > therefore
> > >> it
> > >> > > was
> > >> > > > > > > failing because it was using the wrong key.
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 12:18 PM, Jmeas Apache <
> > >> > > > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > >> > > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > Chris, could you run vagrant provision -vvvv and post it
> > to
> > >> a
> > >> > > gist
> > >> > > > > > > > <https://gist.github.com/>?
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Chris Geer <
> > >> > > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > >> > > > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > I can't seem to get it running. Here is what I get.
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > ==> default: Running provisioner: ansible...
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > PLAY [all]
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> ********************************************************************
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > GATHERING FACTS
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > ***************************************************************
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > fatal: [default] => SSH encountered an unknown error
> > >> during
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > > > > > connection.
> > >> > > > > > > > > We recommend you re-run the command using -vvvv, which
> > >> will
> > >> > > > enable
> > >> > > > > > SSH
> > >> > > > > > > > > debugging output to help diagnose the issue
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > TASK: [oracle-java7 | Check whether or not
> oracle-java7
> > is
> > >> > > > > currently
> > >> > > > > > > > > installed] ***
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > FATAL: no hosts matched or all hosts have already
> failed
> > >> --
> > >> > > > > aborting
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > PLAY RECAP
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> ********************************************************************
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >            to retry, use: --limit
> > >> > > > > > > @/Users/cgeer/rave-local-playbook.retry
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > default                    : ok=0    changed=0
> > >> >  unreachable=1
> > >> > > > > > > > > failed=0
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > Ansible failed to complete successfully. Any error
> > output
> > >> > > should
> > >> > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > visible above. Please fix these errors and try again.
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 9:11 AM, Jmeas Apache <
> > >> > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > >> > > > > > > <javascript:;>>
> > >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Ross Gardler, you can see a Vagrant configuration
> for
> > >> the
> > >> > > > Angular
> > >> > > > > > > > branch
> > >> > > > > > > > > > over at:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/jmeas/rave/tree/ng-vagrant
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > The instructions for installation are in the README.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > Note that the installation may fail during the
> > >> `cargo:run`
> > >> > > > stage
> > >> > > > > > due
> > >> > > > > > > > to a
> > >> > > > > > > > > > missing dependency. This is an active issue we're
> > >> working
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > > solve.
> > >> > > > > > > > > There's
> > >> > > > > > > > > > a separate issue thread (the only other active one
> for
> > >> the
> > >> > > Rave
> > >> > > > > > > project
> > >> > > > > > > > > > this week) regarding this.
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jul 4, 2014 at 3:59 AM, Ross Gardler <
> > >> > > > > > > > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> <javascript:;>
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > I want to see a VagrantFile for Rave. I had
> intended
> > >> to
> > >> > > hold
> > >> > > > > one,
> > >> > > > > > > but
> > >> > > > > > > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > has never made it to the top of my to-do list.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Would love to see one (and help improve it I hope)
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > On 1 Jul 2014 21:04, "Jmeas Apache" <
> > >> > > [email protected] <javascript:;>
> > >> > > > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Apache Rave is a non-trivial application to get
> up
> > >> and
> > >> > > > > running
> > >> > > > > > > on a
> > >> > > > > > > > > new
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > machine. Carl and I are thinking things could be
> > >> > greatly
> > >> > > > > > > simplified
> > >> > > > > > > > > > with
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > tools like Vagrant, Ansible and Grunt, so we'd
> > like
> > >> to
> > >> > > hear
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > thoughts
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the Rave community on adding these tools.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Our thoughts now are placing all of the Java &
> > >> > > Java-related
> > >> > > > > > > > > > dependencies
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > the Vagrant box. This will allow anyone to get
> the
> > >> Java
> > >> > > > > > > environment
> > >> > > > > > > > > by
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > simply running `vagrant up`, instead of figuring
> > out
> > >> > all
> > >> > > of
> > >> > > > > the
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > dependencies on their local machine.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > A PR that introduces Vagrant (with Ansible for
> > >> > > > provisioning)
> > >> > > > > > can
> > >> > > > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > > > seen
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > over here:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/rave/pull/2
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > and on Jira at:
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/RAVE-1099
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > For development, we're thinking a typical Grunt
> > >> > workflow
> > >> > > > > could
> > >> > > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > incorporated to make things really nice. The
> > Tomcat
> > >> > > server
> > >> > > > > > could
> > >> > > > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > booted
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > up with a Grunt command, files could be linted
> and
> > >> > built,
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > unit/integration/functional/whatever tests we
> want
> > >> to
> > >> > add
> > >> > > > can
> > >> > > > > > be
> > >> > > > > > > > done
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > automatically, and to top it off it can all be
> > >> > performed
> > >> > > as
> > >> > > > > you
> > >> > > > > > > > work
> > >> > > > > > > > > > with
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > watch.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > We're working on an initial Grunt PR now, and
> > should
> > >> > have
> > >> > > > it
> > >> > > > > > > ready
> > >> > > > > > > > > > soon.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > At
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > first it will just do simple things, and can be
> > >> > iterated
> > >> > > > upon
> > >> > > > > > > > later.
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > What do y'all think?
> > >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > > >
> > >> > > > > > > > > >
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