Good morning, PJ Hope you are safe and well.
When we started the incubation process, we noted that about half of our initial committers were former members. It was recommended that their contributions be acknowledged and included as initial committers. It was further recommended that their inclusion may increase their chance for future engagement. In the past year, we have had many new members, especially focused on building toolkits and apps, which is instrumental for the projects' overall long-term success. For example, - Ecosystem: https://github.com/ResilientEcosystem - Apps: https://github.com/ResilientApp We really appreciate your assistance. May we further ask if you would kindly consider becoming a mentor for our project as well? We appreciate your consideration. --- Best Regards, Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD Associate Professor Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab) Department of Computer Science University of California, Davis ExpoLab: https://expolab.org/ Apache ResilientDB (Incubating): https://resilientdb.com/ Phone: 914-319-7937 On Mon, Jun 24, 2024 at 1:19 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> wrote: > The people you list are more accurately described as mentors. > > The various roles in a podling are described here. > https://incubator.apache.org/guides/ppmc.html > > You have 32 non-mentor PPMC members. Yet, I see very little attempt by > them to review the release candidates. This is one of the key requirements > for a PPMC member. Mentors and other Incubator PMC members are there to > double check that ASF requirements are met - but there is an assumption > that the core PPMC members (and not the mentors) are doing their part. > > More than half of your non-mentor PPMC members have not joined the private > mailing list for your project. This is also a bad sign of their commitment > to your project. > > > On 2024/06/23 18:00:30 Mohammad Sadoghi wrote: > > Dear PJ, > > > > There seems to be a misunderstanding; we have had great support from our > > mentors (for which we are grateful), including even video calls assisting > > us along the way. We have had many supportive PPMC, most notably Calvin > > Kirs, Christian Grobmeier, and Roman Shaposhnik. > > > > --- > > Best Regards, > > Mohammad Sadoghi, PhD > > Associate Professor > > Exploratory Systems Lab (ExpoLab) > > Department of Computer Science > > University of California, Davis > > > > ExpoLab: https://expolab.org/ > > Apache ResilientDB (Incubating): https://resilientdb.com/ > > Phone: 914-319-7937 > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 23, 2024 at 10:27 AM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > You will need to cancel the RC2 and eventually do an RC3. > > > I won't get involved with the RC3 unless there is some evidence that > the > > > ResilientDB PPMC is going to get involved in reviewing the release. > > > > > > Frankly, I think the ResilientDB PPMC should consider retiring the > Apache > > > podling and maybe operating it outside of the Apache Software > Foundation. > > > You don't appear to have enough people to operate the PPMC under Apache > > > rules. You need a minimum of 3 active people in the PPMC to review and > vote > > > on the release candidates. > > > > > > > > > On 2024/06/23 08:43:16 Junchao Chen wrote: > > > > Hi PJ Fanning, > > > > > > > > Thanks for the help. I have updated the code as you suggested. > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Updated [DISCLAIMER-WIP]( > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/DISCLAIMER-WIP > > > ) > > > > and removed the license info there. > > > > > > > > 2. Updated [LICENSE]( > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/LICENSE) > to > > > fix > > > > the public domain issue. I also removed the license for bazel stuff. > > > > > > > > 3. Provided install [scripts]( > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/INSTALL/README.md > > > ) > > > > for non-root users. However, the users still need to install python3 > and > > > > pip using sudo. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The release candidates: > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/resilientdb/1.10.0-rc2/ > > > > > > > > Release notes: > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#resielientdb-v1100-2024-4-16 > > > > > > > > Git commit ID for the release: > > > > [9bdc6783219db301bc4ab8f171965cb9181a10d5]( > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/commit/9bdc6783219db301bc4ab8f171965cb9181a10d5 > > > > ) > > > > > > > > Keys to verify the Release Candidate: > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/resilientdb/KEYS > > > > > > > > To compile from the source, please refer to: > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb?tab=readme-ov-file#build-and-deploy-resilientdb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We asked PPMC to help us check the release, but unfortunately, they > were > > > > too busy to respond. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Junchao > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 22, 2024 at 5:35 PM PJ Fanning <fannin...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > -1 from me > > > > > > > > > > My 2 biggest concerns are: > > > > > * INSTALL.sh [1] requires sudo - I'm not sure that it does to be > > > honest - > > > > > but I will not run an install on my laptop that requires sudo for > > > security > > > > > reasons. It also uses curl commands to install Bazel. I would > prefer > > > if you > > > > > provided a buold script that does not use sudo and that assumes the > > > user > > > > > has Bazel installed. You can provide a link in your docs about how > to > > > > > install Bazel. > > > > > * I know you are using a DISCLAIMER-WIP file which allows you not > to > > > have > > > > > finalised the 3rd party info in your LICENSE [2] file but there are > > > factual > > > > > inaccuracies in the file are far as I can see. It is one thing to > have > > > > > omissions but I think false claims are a big problem. Some of these > > > false > > > > > claims are listed in the DISCLAIMER-WIP [3]. I don't even know why > you > > > > > include license info in the DISCLAIMER-WIP (you do need to state > that > > > users > > > > > need to check the licensing of the 3rd party code because you have > not > > > > > completed this work). Under public domain you include: > > > > > > > > > > * protobuf-3.10.0 (https://github.com/protocolbuffers/protobuf) > > > > > > > > > > Protobuf is not public domain. I think many of the other items you > > > listed > > > > > are not public domain either. > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure why you are even listing this stuff in your LICENSE. > The > > > > > LICENSE is for the source code that is in the source release. If > you > > > link > > > > > to binaries that are pulled in the install, that is not something > that > > > does > > > > > not affect the LICENSE. Many projects provide a separate > LICENSE-BINARY > > > > > file but this is not strictly necessary unless you are providing a > > > binary > > > > > release as well as a source release. > > > > > > > > > > I'm also concerned about the health of the ResilientDB PPMC. PPMC > > > members > > > > > need to be more involved in checking the release candidates. You > > > shouldn't > > > > > be relying on Incubator PMC members to do the checks - we are just > a > > > final > > > > > check but we assume that the PPMC members have been actively > involved > > > in > > > > > checking the release candidates first. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also noted a number of issues in the Vote email. > > > > > > > > > > The preference for the KEYS file is to link this file > > > > > https://downloads.apache.org/incubator/resilientdb/KEYS > > > > > Which is a CDN equivalent of > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/release/incubator/resilientdb/KEYS > > > > > > > > > > The vote email should include the Git commit ID. The Git tag is > useful > > > too > > > > > but Git tags can be moved. > > > > > The commit ID appears to be > 1b5b5e39884f72345f682209add8ab3dc491bb7e > > > > > > > > > > Your link to the docs to compile the code is broken > > > > > This works: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb?tab=readme-ov-file#build-and-deploy-resilientdb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/INSTALL.sh > > > > > [2] > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/LICENSE > > > > > [3] > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/DISCLAIMER-WIP > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2024/06/22 03:31:30 Junchao Chen wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > This is a call for vote to release Apache ResilientDB(Incubating) > > > version > > > > > > 1.10.0-RC2. > > > > > > > > > > > > The release candidates: > > > > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/resilientdb/1.10.0-rc2/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Release notes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md#resielientdb-v1100-2024-4-16 > > > > > > > > > > > > Git tag for the release: > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/tree/v1.10.0-rc02 > > > > > > > > > > > > Keys to verify the Release Candidate: > > > > > > > https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev//incubator/resilientdb/KEYS > > > > > > > > > > > > The vote will be open for at least 72 hours or until the > necessary > > > number > > > > > > of votes are reached. > > > > > > > > > > > > Please vote accordingly: > > > > > > [ ] +1 approve > > > > > > [ ] +0 no opinion > > > > > > [ ] -1 disapprove with the reason > > > > > > > > > > > > Checklist for reference: > > > > > > > > > > > > [ ] Download links are valid. > > > > > > [ ] Checksums and PGP signatures are valid. > > > > > > [ ] Source code distributions have correct names matching the > current > > > > > > release. > > > > > > [ ] LICENSE and NOTICE files are correct for each repo. > > > > > > [ ] All files have license headers if necessary. > > > > > > [ ] No unlicensed compiled archives bundled in the source > archive. > > > > > > > > > > > > To compile from the source, please refer to: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/tree/1.10.0-rc02?tab=readme-ov-file#build-and-deploy-resilientdb > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-resilientdb/tree/v1.10.0-rc01?tab=readme-ov-file#build-and-deploy-resilientdb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Junchao > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
