It would be good to externalize and internationalize the messages too.

Cheers,

Greg Trasuk.

On Feb 12, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Dennis Reedy <dennis.re...@gmail.com> wrote:

> While we're bringing up topics to discuss, I thought I'd throw this one out 
> there. Deploying systems into production (or just into serious test mode) 
> always brings up one issue pretty much consistently. What to do about 
> logging? The same questions/issues always seem to come up:
> 
> - How do I know what went wrong and where?
> - How do I get access to the service logs being created at each individual 
> machine? 
> - Can I trace an invocation across services (that might be on different 
> machines) using log messages, and how?
> 
> I've transitioned over to SLF4J sometime ago, and found the options available 
> using either Logback or Log4J to completely outshine any capabilities of 
> java.util.logging (j.u.l), and start to make the above questions addressable 
> (without having to write your own customized logging framework). Some of the 
> top advatanges I've found are:
> 
> - Pick the logging system at deploy tie (Logback,Log4J, j.u.l)
> - Choice of appenders that are available to do log consolidation & management
> - Better configuration for logging and loggers
> - Having mapped diagnostic context available (if the underlying logging 
> system supports it as logback and log4J do)
> - Performance advantages that logabck and Log4J offer
> 
> For River to be a key player in the enterprise, it has to be able to use 
> logging framework that allows better management, visibility and control. For 
> that reason I'd like to suggest that we move River away from j.u.l to SLF4J.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Dennis
> 

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