We have been using river/jini since 2006.  While I have very little time for 
work on open source projects outside of our own (read - completely swamped), I 
am hugely in favor of its continued life.  The main points for me are not so 
much the evolution of the software as continuing to harden an already great 
platform such that it can continue to be used.

Thanks,
Bryan

> On May 12, 2014, at 9:59 AM, Greg Trasuk <tras...@stratuscom.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On May 11, 2014, at 12:30 AM, Peter <j...@zeus.net.au> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ultimately, if community involvement continues to decline, we may have to 
>> send River to the attic.
>> 
>> Distributed computing is difficult and we often bump into the shortcomings 
>> of the java platform, I think these difficulties are why developers have 
>> trouble agreeing on solutions.
>> 
>> But I think more importantly we need increased user involvement.
>> 
>> Is there any advise or resources we can draw on from other Apache projects?
> 
> It may be, ultimately, that the community has failed and River is headed to 
> the Attic.  The usual question is “Can the project round up the 3 ‘+1’ votes 
> required to make an Apache release?”  Historically, we have been able to do 
> that, at least for maintenance releases, and I don’t see that changing, at 
> least for a while.  
> 
> The problem is future development and the ongoing health of the project.  On 
> this point, we don’t seem to have consensus on where we want the project to 
> go, and there’s limited enthusiasm for user-focused requirements.  Also, my 
> calls to discuss the health of the project have had no response (well, there 
> was a tangent about the build system, but personally I think that misses the 
> point).
> 
> I will include in the board report the fact that no-one has expressed an 
> interest in taking over as PMC chair, and ask if there are any other expert 
> resources that can help.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Greg Trasuk.

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