OK, a design which allows for named bookmark categories/folders while not allowing subfolders underneath them would be acceptable. I.e., a user creates three categories of bookmarks: Sports, Travel, News, with several links underneath each, but no need for additional subcategories under those top-level categories.

So, my suggestion, vetoed by you, is (A):

 --- nhl.com
 --- nba.com
 --- nfl.com
 --- visit Florida
 --- visit Las Vegas
 --- visit Hawaii

You would accept this instead:

Sports
 --- nhl.com
 --- nba.com
 --- nfl.com

Travel
  --- visit Florida
  --- visit Las Vegas
  --- visit Hawaii

What we currently have is C:

Sports
   --- general sports link #1
   --- general sports link #2
   Football
      --- football link #1
      --- football link #2
      College Football
          --- college football link #1
          --- college football link #2
   Basketball
      --- basketball link #1
      --- basketball link #2
Travel
    North America
     --- Las Vegas travel!
     --- California travel!
    South America
    ---  Argentina travel!

So you would accept an architectural change from from (C) to (B) but not (C) to (A). I agree that (B) is better than (C), but (B) to be done right, should probably use two tables instead of one (bookmark and bookmark-category). While (C) should probably be reimplemented as (B), there's not much of a difference between the two for me to put in the effort; so I think I'll pass on this for the time being and look at other issues instead. While (B) looks nicer than (A), I just would never use the Bookmarks page personally to implement (B), again, I just directly modify the template and add/maintain my links there directly in however many different groups I want.

Thanks,
Glen

On 01/12/2014 03:06 PM, Dave wrote:
-1 to removing the ability to group bookmarks.  I think it's very useful to
be able to have named groups of links. I rely on that feature in several
themes that I have developed.

I think we need a way to group bookmarks in "folders" but we do not need
the ability to have sub-folders, i.e. folders within folders.

- Dave




On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Glen Mazza <glen.ma...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi team, once Gaurav's patch removing blog subcategories is in place, and
the simplifications this switch incurs realized, I'd like us to do the same
with our blogroll page--namely, remove sub-bookmarks (bookmark folders) and
incorporate blogitem ordering in its place.  I imagine the blogroll page
will look closely similar to the (upcoming) category page -- a straight
list of top-level blogroll items and up-and-down arrows of some sort to
facilitate ordering of them.  As part of this switch, we'll be pulling out
the "Import bookmarks via OPML" option, as few use OPML and its value is
greatly shrunk once we move from a tree to a list for blogroll items.  This
change will also result in the bookmark table being simplified from a
hierarchical to a flat structure (i.e., no more parent bookmark column),
just as is being done with categories.

The blogroll page is primarily for novice and intermediate bloggers and
nearly all of them would be fine with a single-list of blogroll items, as
indeed virtually all blogrolls are formatted as lists anyway.  The handful
of more advanced users looking into maintaining a tree of blogroll links
can still accomplish that via template modifications (manually adding the
HTML links into the side-column template), an approach many would be taking
even if trees continue to be supported in the blogroll page. (I never use
the blogroll page myself, I just manually configure my blogroll links in
the side column template anyway along with the formatting I desire.)  So I
think this change will nicely tighten up and further simplify the Roller
code and UI, helping increase its adoption, while not preventing blogroll
trees for the relative few wanting them.

WDYT?

Regards,
Glen



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