Harbs,

I haven't used them personally, but I understand how they are working. I
agree that we should put our effort to have those tests written in AS3
instead of Java. We don't have to many active people among the committer
who know Java. Those example which we have can be just starting point - Can
it be rewritten to AS3 ?

Piotr

2017-11-03 13:04 GMT+01:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com>:

> Hi Piotr,
>
> Do you understand how the Selenium tests work and how to write them?
>
> It looks like the tests are written in Java. IMO, ideally, the tests
> should be written in ActionScript.
>
> Selenium has a Node.js driver and it makes sense that we should be taking
> advantage of that.
>
> In fact, we can probably have one framework which does non-UI unit testing
> using Node and UI testing using the node and selenium.
>
> Harbs
>
> > On Nov 3, 2017, at 1:31 PM, Piotr Zarzycki <piotrzarzyck...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Harbs,
> >
> > Fully agree what you are saying! Sometimes I have found myself difficult
> > without deeper knowledge how something is working when I check the code.
> > One thing which I can mention is that we already have Selenium
> integrated.
> > If you are going to spend some time on that I would start from the point
> > [1] and see whether we can use it.
> >
> > As for your coming to US - Wish I could be there!
> >
> > [1]
> > https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/tree/develop/examples/examples-
> integrationtests <https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/tree/develop/
> examples/examples-integrationtests>
> >
> > Piotr
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-03 12:19 GMT+01:00 Harbs <harbs.li...@gmail.com <mailto:
> harbs.li...@gmail.com>>:
> >
> >> One topic which keeps coming up is better test coverage for Royale.
> >>
> >> I think this is becoming a critical issue for a few reasons:
> >> 1. As we get close to version 1.0 it’s necessary to have good test
> >> coverage for confidence of quality and confidence that we don’t
> introduce
> >> recessive bugs.
> >> 2. It’s really hard to accept Github pull requests without examining the
> >> code VERY well that it does not introduce recessive bugs. CI which runs
> >> automated tests could give a preliminary test on pull requests to ensure
> >> that they don’t break anything. If the pull requests do break
> something, it
> >> allows the requester to fix the problem with confidence without taking
> >> others’ time.
> >>
> >> I think we need to break up testing into pieces and figure out a
> strategy
> >> to implement automated tests in a way that they are maintainable.
> >>
> >> Some points:
> >> 1. I think integration into something like Travis would be very helpful.
> >> 2. I think there’s a Jenkins plugin for building pull requests. Not sure
> >> how useful it is.[1]
> >> 3. Josh has created a Node.js-compatible test-runner architecture which
> >> could be useful for unit tests on parts of the framework which don’t
> rely
> >> on browser features. (i.e. models and the like) He mentioned the
> >> possibility of donating it, and I think that would be a very useful
> feature.
> >> 4. For UI and integration tests, there seem to be some pretty cool
> >> integrations using Selenium.[2][3]
> >> 5. I think the main testing effort needs to be using JS and something
> like
> >> Josh’s testing framework for non-UI pieces and some easy-to-use Selenium
> >> integration for visual pieces and integration tests.
> >> 6. We probably also want some API endpoints we can test off of for
> >> integration testing.
> >>
> >> I’m willing to invest time into this.
> >>
> >> It’s going to be a lot of work building out the tests and I think we
> need
> >> a plan for that. My thoughts:
> >>
> >> 1. Step one is to make it easy to write meaningful automated tests and
> >> establish a clear pattern.
> >> 2. Step two is to start writing tests starting from the
> most-used/easiest
> >> to beak pieces and work out from there.
> >> 3. Once the pattern is established, any new pieces MUST have testing
> >> coverage.
> >> 4. When fixing bugs, attention should be paid to adding testing for that
> >> component.
> >> 5. When a pull request comes in on a piece which does not have unit
> test,
> >> a test must be written before accepting the pull request. The test does
> not
> >> need to be written by the requester. Before examining the request, the
> test
> >> should be written to pass for expected behavior and fail for the bug
> that
> >> the pull request is attempting to fix (assuming the pull request is to
> fix
> >> a bug).
> >>
> >> Thoughts?
> >> Harbs
> >>
> >> P.S. I’m thinking of coming to the US in late December/early January. I
> >> would be interested in getting together for a hacking session with folks
> >> who are available.
> >>
> >> [1]https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/GitHub+pull+
> >> request+builder+plugin <https://wiki.jenkins.io/ <
> https://wiki.jenkins.io/>
> >> display/JENKINS/GitHub+pull+request+builder+plugin>
> >> [2]https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/ <
> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/> <
> >> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/ <
> https://docs.travis-ci.com/user/gui-and-headless-browsers/>>
> >> [3]https://saucelabs.com/products/integrations <https://saucelabs.com/
> products/integrations> <https://saucelabs.com/ <https://saucelabs.com/>
> >> products/integrations>
> >
> >
> >
> >
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