The word "package" has many meanings.  In AS3 it is a way of avoiding API name 
collisions.  AIUI, an AS3 package in SWF code has no object or function 
representation.  It effectively just creates a longer "qualified name".  IOW, 
in a SWF, if there is a class "mx.core.UIComponent", there is no "mx.core" 
object you can iterate to see all of the classes.

For Royale's JS output, an AS3 package has an object representation in debug 
mode because we use the same pattern as Google Closure.  So there really would 
be an "mx" Object with a "core" property object with a UIComponent function 
that serves as the constructor.  However, in production, these package objects 
are often collapsed, so it is best to not assume the objects exist.

Then there are Node/NPM packages and modules and other sorts of "packaging".   
But in this thread I was only referencing AS3 Packages.

Also in this thread I mentioned TypeScript.  While Royale could support 
TypeScript as Carlos mentioned, as an alternative to writing AS3, I only 
mentioned it because the existence of a TypeScript definition for a library 
indicates that the library can have a strongly-typed API surface which means it 
is highly likely you can create Royale typedefs for that library, and because I 
thought that Josh's converter was still working.  Supporting TypeScript as an 
alternative programming language in Royale is a significant chunk of work and 
is not something I plan to work on at this time.  But I was only mentioning 
using TypeScript to generate typedefs, which is a different effort and could be 
a smaller effort and give us access to a huge set of typedefs.  I have no plans 
to work on that at this time either, but I could imagine myself working on that 
if there was enough demand for it.

HTH,
-Alex

On 5/2/19, 11:24 AM, "Dany Dhondt" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Hi Josh,
    
    Aren’t most of the packages just functions?
    In ES6, you’d import packages as
    Import { myFunct, myVar } from ‘my-package’
    In older javascript you’d:
    const myPackagePointer = require(‘my-package’)
    
    So your ‘fun’ example sounds like heaven to me! This is exactly what we 
need.
    
    About Typescript: do we need that at all? I think, but maybe this goes 
beyond my technical knowledge, all node packages are compiled into plain old 
javascript functions. Typescript is only needed for authoring the packages. 
Once compiled there’s no trace of Typescript at all. If this is indeed true, 
then we shouldn’t bother about Typescript at all, and just concentrate on 
incorporating the pure javascript libs. 
    
    Dany
    
    > Op 2 mei 2019, om 19:57 heeft Josh Tynjala <[email protected]> het 
volgende geschreven:
    > 
    > Just for fun, here's another way that you could create a typedef for hljs 
so that the highlightBlock() function is directly in a package (similar to 
flash.net.navigateToURL), instead of as a static method on a class:
    > 
    > 
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    > 
    > If you did it this way, you'd need to import it before you can call the 
function, like this:
    > 
    > import hljs.highlightBlock;
    > 
    > Or this should work too, if you prefer:
    > 
    > import hljs.*;
    > 
    > And then you can call the function directly (without the hljs. prefix):
    > 
    > highlightBlock(block);
    > 
    > As you can see, the way that you choose to expose a JS library to 
ActionScript is pretty flexible. Some JavaScript libraries are just a function, 
and some have APIs that work more like classes. Depending on the library, one 
way may work better than the other.
    > 
    > - Josh
    > 
    > On 2019/05/02 17:48:49, Josh Tynjala <[email protected]> wrote: 
    >> Exactly right. When you create a typedef class, you're trying to 
simulate how you would access the API as if you were writing in plain 
JavaScript. You call hljs.highlightBlock() in JavaScript, so you need a class 
that works the same way in ActionScript.
    >> 
    >> Another option for organization would be to keep all of your typedefs in 
a separate folder from your app's source files, and reference the typedefs 
folder using the source-path compiler option.
    >> 
    >> - Josh
    >> 
    >> On 2019/05/02 16:23:45, Alex Harui <[email protected]> wrote: 
    >>> Hi Carlos,
    >>> 
    >>> I don’t think hljs is in a package called "externs".  In Josh's 
example, hljs was in the top-level package.  And that's because hljs is found 
at runtime off of the global window object, not some sub-object called 
"externs".  So, the hljs.as file containing the externs has to go in the root 
of a source-path, not in some folder called "externs" (which is why some folks 
will take the time to create a separate typedefs SWC so as not to clutter the 
root of their application's source directory).
    >>> 
    >>> Then instead of "import externs.hljs", it should be "import hljs" (or 
shouldn’t be needed at all).
    >>> 
    >>> HTH,
    >>> -Alex
    >>> 
    >>> On 5/2/19, 9:11 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>>    Hi,
    >>> 
    >>>    in my latest commit I added hljs extern class like Josh show in 
package
    >>>    externs in TDJ
    >>> 
    >>>    Then I didn't commit the following since is not working for me:
    >>> 
    >>>    1.- In HighlightCode class (in utils package TDJ)
    >>> 
    >>>    added:
    >>> 
    >>>    import externs.hljs;
    >>> 
    >>>    changed the method highlightBlock to:
    >>> 
    >>>            COMPILE::JS
    >>>    /**
    >>>    * block is the element (WrappedHTMLElement) inside the component (the
    >>>    <code> tag)
    >>>    */
    >>>            public function highlightBlock(block:Element):void
    >>>            {
    >>>                hljs.highlightBlock(block);
    >>>            }
    >>> 
    >>>    and running it I get:
    >>> 
    >>>    Uncaught ReferenceError: externs is not defined
    >>>        at utils.HighlightCode.highlightBlock (HighlightCode.as:53)
    >>>        at
    >>>    
WelcomeSection.components.ExampleAndSourceCodeTabbedSectionContent.dataReadyHandler
    >>>    (ExampleAndSourceCodeTabbedSectionContent.as:138)
    >>>        at services.GitHubService.goog.events.EventTarget.fireListeners
    >>>    (eventtarget.js:284)
    >>>        at Function.goog.events.EventTarget.dispatchEventInternal_
    >>>    (eventtarget.js:381)
    >>>        at services.GitHubService.goog.events.EventTarget.dispatchEvent
    >>>    (eventtarget.js:196)
    >>>        at
    >>>    
services.GitHubService.org.apache.royale.events.EventDispatcher.dispatchEvent
    >>>    (EventDispatcher.js:71)
    >>>        at services.GitHubService.services_GitHubService_completeHandler
    >>>    (GitHubService.as:54)
    >>>        at
    >>>    
org.apache.royale.net.HTTPService.goog.events.EventTarget.fireListeners
    >>>    (eventtarget.js:284)
    >>>        at Function.goog.events.EventTarget.dispatchEventInternal_
    >>>    (eventtarget.js:381)
    >>>        at
    >>>    
org.apache.royale.net.HTTPService.goog.events.EventTarget.dispatchEvent
    >>>    (eventtarget.js:196)
    >>> 
    >>>    What I'm doing wrong?
    >>> 
    >>>    thanks!
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>>    El jue., 2 may. 2019 a las 18:02, Carlos Rovira 
(<[email protected]>)
    >>>    escribió:
    >>> 
    >>>> Hi Josh,
    >>>> 
    >>>> I think this piece of knowledge you just exposed here is key for the
    >>>> success of Royale.
    >>>> 
    >>>> I'll try to use this in TDJ to experiment with it and will use in the 
blog
    >>>> example I plan to do.
    >>>> 
    >>>> thanks!
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> El jue., 2 may. 2019 a las 16:36, Josh Tynjala 
(<[email protected]>)
    >>>> escribió:
    >>>> 
    >>>>>> Users can't do this, they required that Royale framework devs add
    >>>>> typedefs to the typedefs repo and wait to next SDK release. What does 
not
    >>>>> seems very useful.
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Users can create their own typedefs from scratch.
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> I just created a quick example for hljs, that exposes the
    >>>>> highlightBlock() function:
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> 
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    >>>>> 
    >>>>> Basically, the class needs an asdoc comment with the @externs tag 
(this
    >>>>> is something that comes from Google Closure compiler, which we use to
    >>>>> create release builds) and the compiler should handle the rest.
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> As I understand it, you don't even need to create a SWC library for
    >>>>> custom typedefs. Recently, Alex mentioned that the mxmlc compiler is 
smart
    >>>>> enough to handle a source file as long as it has the @externs tag.
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> - Josh
    >>>>> 
    >>>>> On 2019/05/02 09:34:37, Carlos Rovira <[email protected]> wrote:
    >>>>>> Hi,
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> to sumarize (let me know if I'm wrong), the current ways to 
integrate an
    >>>>>> existing library are 3:
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 1.- access vía brackets notation: This is the most easy and direct, 
an
    >>>>>> example is TourDeJewel in class utils.HighlightCode
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> var hljs:Object = window["hljs"];
    >>>>>> hljs["highlightBlock"](block);
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> but this one is not what we really want since we are going with 
Roayle
    >>>>> and
    >>>>>> AS3 to get type checking and strong typing. So this, although useful 
is
    >>>>> not
    >>>>>> what we really want to use in out Apps, but since we want to maintain
    >>>>> the
    >>>>>> dynamic aspect of the language it could be very useful sometimes
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 2.- using typedefs
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> This will be the next step to use a real type and dot notation, but
    >>>>> seems
    >>>>>> not easy or direct.
    >>>>>> Users can't do this, they required that Royale framework devs add
    >>>>> typedefs
    >>>>>> to the typedefs repo and wait to next SDK release. What does not 
seems
    >>>>> very
    >>>>>> useful.
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> In the other hand we'll need to know how to extend current typedefs
    >>>>> since
    >>>>>> don't know if we have docs about this. Until now I added to 
"missing.js"
    >>>>>> file fo now, but this doesn't seems a valid path since it lacks
    >>>>>> organization, separation, and a way for all people contributing to 
know
    >>>>> wha
    >>>>>> we have, what can be added and where, if not we'll find in time lots 
of
    >>>>>> code very difficult to maintain.
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Yishay and Josh talked about to use TypeScript, but seems that is
    >>>>> already
    >>>>>> explored by Josh but not a valid path since will be very difficult to
    >>>>>> maintain.
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> 3.- wrapping libraries
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> This is how we did with MDL. This will be recommended when we want to
    >>>>>> integrate existing libraries with Royale to make it work with our 
APIs
    >>>>> in a
    >>>>>> more seamless way. But the problems is that this is very laborious. 
Can
    >>>>> be
    >>>>>> useful for some concrete libraries and we should do when needed (the
    >>>>> case
    >>>>>> is MDL). But the problem is that this not solve the problem of our 
users
    >>>>>> that need to integrate a existing library themselves in a quick way.
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Let me know if you know other way.
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> For me method 1, is ok to do the work, but doesn't make us justice.
    >>>>>> method 2 should be the main one if there's a fast and easy way... I'm
    >>>>>> missing something here? Can users create typedefs themselves?
    >>>>>> method 3 can be useful for us or for users (doing their own libs, and
    >>>>>> eventually can share with us to add to official royale repo and sdk)
    >>>>>> but is something not fast at all and not as convenient and direct as
    >>>>> method
    >>>>>> 2, and will require maintenance as libs change.
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> Could we agree that this is the currently available ways in Royale 
now
    >>>>> to
    >>>>>> use external JS libs?
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> thanks
    >>>>>> 
    >>>>>> --
    >>>>>> Carlos Rovira
    >>>>>> 
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    >>>>>> 
    >>>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>>> --
    >>>> Carlos Rovira
    >>>> 
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    >>>> 
    >>>> 
    >>> 
    >>>    -- 
    >>>    Carlos Rovira
    >>>    
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    >>> 
    >>> 
    >>> 
    >> 
    
    

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