Hi Alex, very good news. Congrats to all of you working on emulation! :). There's as well other migration efforts based on Jewel and in good progress, but with issues to manage over time. It could be a good time to start trying to release, but I'll try to go 0.9.7 and continue improving until release process could be really easy to do. As well docs continue to be something we need if we want to have success for 1.0.
El mar., 18 feb. 2020 a las 8:42, Alex Harui (<[email protected]>) escribió: > Today, I received permission to disclose that Alina & Pashmina's team has > 88 of their modules ready for release (tested and validated by their QA > team). They still have more modules to migrate before they deliver to > their customer, but it is a good sign that the emulation is sufficient for > many needs. > > Once I can merge the "has" branch and re-stabilize, I will hope that's the > last big change we need for a while. I have heard that there are other > migration efforts underway using migration and I'm sure they will keep > finding bugs, but I'm feeling better about the emulation code. > > -Alex > > On 12/18/19, 9:05 AM, "Alex Harui" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Every day, I hope to hear news that Alina & Pashmina or Serkan or > somebody else has deployed a production app using the MXRoyale and/or Spark > Royale emulation components. But instead, I see more bugs being filed for > "obvious" things. You can look at the issues list of open and fixed issues > and the commits that fixed them to get a feel for it. Each of us has their > own threshold of how good a 1.0 version should be, so if more of you can > look at these bugs and think it is ok for a 1.0 to have these problems, > then great, let's release the next version as 1.0, but when I try to > remember what Flex 1.0 was like, I think it didn't have these kinds of > problems. > > As Carlos said below, we get one chance to make a good first > impression, so I am being conservative. But it isn't my decision alone. > It is really up to the rest of you. > > -Alex > > On 12/18/19, 6:41 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Piotr, > > I'm afraid my perception is that we need to get to 1.0 in a > natural way. I > mean: releasing 1.0 and giving exposure in all ways we can (webs, > social > media, magazines,...), means people will try us. If they try and > fail, will > never come back. So think about this as "only on bullet in your > gun", if > you fail de shot, that will be bad for all the work we are done. > I'm ok to > release 1.0 as soon as we see from "bird eye perspective" that all > things > work as we expect. > > For me that things are: > > * Documentation will need to have at least some missing pages of > features > like: DataBindnig, Loading External Data (HTTPSerice, > RemoteObject, JSON), > View States, Item Renderers. Things like this are essential. > * Emulation components need to be in a shape that allow migrations > in a > good degree. I think people approaching direct migration with > emulation > components will many issues. I don't take into account look and > feel of > emulation components, just functionality and working from a flex > code > perspective, and just normal use cases with MX/Spark code, not > third party > libraries that we have no control over. Simple apps like TDF, and > examples > should work. > > If we decided we want to bypass the previous, at least we need to > ensure > "first try" of Royale for a newcomer (someone that knows very few > about the > tech) is successful. This is most important things of all. The > other two > are needed if we want people does not get frustrated and have > solutions on > their own and stay with us. The opposite is people can have a > first try > successful but abandon Royale due to unfinished things. > > I think 0.9.7-SNAPSHOT captures in a realistic number where we are. > Technology works, and most people using it now can do lots of > things, but > we still need to cover some things to reach that 1.0. We are not > too far > but I think is still some month in the future. > > just my 2 :) > > Carlos > > > > > El mié., 18 dic. 2019 a las 10:30, Piotr Zarzycki (< > [email protected]>) escribió: > > > Hello, > > > > This thread is old and this was the last message from me. What > has changed > > on your end guys ? > > > > Thanks, > > Piotr > > > > wt., 30 kwi 2019 o 10:07 Piotr Zarzycki < > [email protected]> > > napisał(a): > > > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > Thank you so far for a great discussion. I see that there is > an obvious > > > needs to improve documentation the most. > > > > > > I would like to express my personal feelings regarding > releasing anything > > > what is not 1.0 after 0.9.6. Based on my experience with this > project I > > > don't believe that releasing 0.9.7, 0.9.8 till 1.0 etc. will > take less > > than > > > 6-8 months form now on. Even if we will have automatic release > process I > > > cannot believe that is going to happen in a less time than I > mention. > > > > > > Why I'm thinking like that: > > > - Justin just provided to the contributors generous offer - > it's been > > > couple of days and there is absolutely no response. > > > - I've seen as part of the responses some concrete issues > towards code in > > > SDK. I don't believe that there will be anyone who fix them > UNLESS > > someone > > > need that stuff in his application which has been under > development in > > his > > > daily job. Which leads me to conclusion that we will wait > months before > > > anything from that list will be fixed. > > > > > > How Royale is going on right now? > > > In my original email I expressed that it is enough good to > bump it to 1.0 > > > - which gets us more credibility and push us to a better > light. I got > > clear > > > responses from community that the only thing which is in the > way of to > > 1.0 > > > is documentation. > > > > > > W have one production app in Royale, another one has been > created by > > > Carlos. I'm working on the third one. Justin mention fourth > one which I'm > > > reviewing right now because it is written in Flex - it looks > there won't > > be > > > problem with porting to Royale. To me it is enough proof that > Royale is > > as > > > good as is to expose itself for more wider audience. Because > this is > > > exactly what will happen when we bump to that magic 1.0. > > > People on this project are talking about community, my > proposition to > > bump > > > Royale to 1.0 is towards community with hope that it helps > grow thanks to > > > that step. With hope that finally I will see on the list more > people, > > with > > > hope that I will see someone who doesn't have background in > ActionScript, > > > but was curious about the project. > > > > > > In this thread I don't see rejection to my idea, so I'm going > to work to > > > improve some areas and start release with bumped version to > 1.0, whether > > it > > > will be after 0.9.7, 0.9.8 it doesn't matter - What's really > matter is > > that > > > we are not facing in current version any walls during > development, so > > this > > > is enough to me giving that framework 1.0. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Piotr > > > > > > pon., 29 kwi 2019 o 19:44 Carlos Rovira < > [email protected]> > > > napisał(a): > > > > > >> Hi Justin, > > >> > > >> great initiative, but some thoughts: > > >> > > >> 1.- As Olaf said, Alex or I are just two more devs, so we can > say what > > >> should we do. That's the apache way! :), only work towards > the goal and > > >> giving advice to make things happen. We decisions are > community managed > > >> > > >> 2.- I think is very generous offer so people can contribute > and earn > > some > > >> money and a great plan, > > >> > > >> Some things you should take into account for the rewarding > plan: > > >> > > >> * We just get results of the poll about releasing published > few minutes > > >> ago. Seems people wants to focus docs first and release > second (from 61 > > >> votes). > > >> * In the other hand, I see Alex is still fighting with the > release > > >> process. > > >> He stated that probably this week he will have the process > ready to be > > >> tested by someone. > > >> If he get to that point that will be awesome, and hope others > could be > > the > > >> first one in try to "push the button". If that works ok, > we'll have a > > >> 0.9.6 > > >> release (I think the one by Alex), and then a 0.9.7 (by that > new release > > >> manager). At that point, I figure we can plan 0.9.8, 0.9.9 > and Finlay > > 1.0. > > >> For me release should happen at least from month to month. > have sense? > > >> > > >> Just my my thoughts, but hope other want to share here what > they can do > > >> and > > >> work to earn some money too! :) > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > >> > -- > > >> > Carlos Rovira > > >> > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C223073f5986349c505e808d783dc894d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637122855535324332&sdata=ASZFiHNLaimVkZYNcna1%2BgC99mX%2F%2Bs9lFcSQR43jh3A%3D&reserved=0 > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Piotr Zarzycki > > > > > > Patreon: * > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C223073f5986349c505e808d783dc894d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637122855535324332&sdata=g59S9iIx3J1aUO0NSJn6VaY%2Frn1KqfENiYYrz3kAzDI%3D&reserved=0 > > > < > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C223073f5986349c505e808d783dc894d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637122855535324332&sdata=g59S9iIx3J1aUO0NSJn6VaY%2Frn1KqfENiYYrz3kAzDI%3D&reserved=0 > >* > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Piotr Zarzycki > > > > Patreon: * > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C223073f5986349c505e808d783dc894d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637122855535324332&sdata=g59S9iIx3J1aUO0NSJn6VaY%2Frn1KqfENiYYrz3kAzDI%3D&reserved=0 > > < > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.patreon.com%2Fpiotrzarzycki&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C223073f5986349c505e808d783dc894d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637122855535324332&sdata=g59S9iIx3J1aUO0NSJn6VaY%2Frn1KqfENiYYrz3kAzDI%3D&reserved=0 > >* > > > > > -- > Carlos Rovira > > https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fabout.me%2Fcarlosrovira&data=02%7C01%7Caharui%40adobe.com%7C223073f5986349c505e808d783dc894d%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637122855535324332&sdata=ASZFiHNLaimVkZYNcna1%2BgC99mX%2F%2Bs9lFcSQR43jh3A%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > -- Carlos Rovira http://about.me/carlosrovira
