Hi all,

yes, now I am certain that updating the other 9 places to set the time-zone of 
the SimpleDateFormat will help.

Here's a great article on exactly this topic:
https://www.codeproject.com/Tips/1190426/When-Parsing-Formatting-Dates-in-Java-Make-Sure-Yo

And now I'm hopefully really gonna call it a night.

Chris

Am 24.03.20, 21:50 schrieb "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]>:

    Thanks for the huge effort Chris,
    I think it's being tough these days.
    Let's get rest and see if tomorrow we can get over step 7 :)
    
    Carlos
    
    
    El mar., 24 mar. 2020 a las 21:37, Christofer Dutz (<
    [email protected]>) escribió:
    
    > HI Alex,
    >
    > I think we're getting closer ...
    >
    > The maven reproducible build mechanism and the release plugin all work
    > with a standard time format:
    >
    > 
<project.build.outputTimestamp>2020-03-24T19:00:04Z</project.build.outputTimestamp></properties>
    > The format is:
    > yyyy-MM-dd'T'HH:mm:ss'Z'
    > So it actually doesn't contain time-zone information.
    >
    > Also did I do a little more searching in the compiler code and sort of
    > identical code was found in 9 places.
    >
    > I will try tomorrow if it helps setting the time-zone to UTC for every
    > place where the getSWFMetadataDate and getSWFMetadataDateFormat are used 
in
    > a SimpleDateFormat. I would assume if no timezone information is provided,
    > the SimpleDateFormat assumes it's the VMs default one. Now I could imagine
    > that if you call getTime this sort of is influenced by this.
    >
    > Now after a second full day of working on this I just want to go to bed 
;-)
    >
    > Good night to you all,
    >
    > Chris
    >
    >
    >
    > Am 24.03.20, 20:57 schrieb "Alex Harui" <[email protected]>:
    >
    >     Ok, I think I have a better idea of what code you are referring to.
    >
    >     I can look into it with more detail later, but I recall thinking that
    > there could be a problem during the weeks the world is not synced on
    > "daylight savings time".
    >
    >     Over on the US west coast, I was typing in dates like: "02/25/20 14:51
    > -0800".  The CI server is somewhere in the US, IIRC.  And IIRC, I had to
    > use ""02/25/20 14:51 -0700" instead (or maybe the other way around) during
    > the period of time the US was changing from "PST" to "PDT" or back.
    >
    >     So try adding or subtracting a zone from the date you are feeding into
    > Jenkins and see what happens.
    >
    >     HTH,
    >     -Alex
    >
    >
    >     On 3/24/20, 12:34 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >         Hi Alex,
    >
    >         Well it seems as if the "mod" attribute in the catalog.xml is
    > generated from the zipfile entry
    >                     xmlWriter.writeAttribute(ATTR_MOD,
    > String.valueOf(file.getLastModified()));
    >
    >         And in the SWCWriter there's this code that cuts off the timezone,
    > you even wrote a comment on it
    >
    >                 if (metadataDate != null)
    >                 {
    >                     // TODO: Perhaps parsing without modification and then
    > serializing with a default timezone is the more solid approach.
    >                     // strip off timezone.  Zip format doesn't store
    > timezone
    >                     // and the goal is to have the same date and time
    > regardless
    >                     // of which timezone the build machine is using.
    >                     int c = metadataDate.lastIndexOf(' ');
    >                     if(c != -1) {
    >                         metadataDate = metadataDate.substring(0, c);
    >                     }
    >                     c = metadataFormat.lastIndexOf(' ');
    >                     if(c != -1) {
    >                         metadataFormat = metadataFormat.substring(0, c);
    >                     }
    >                         try {
    >                                 SimpleDateFormat sdf = new
    > SimpleDateFormat(metadataFormat);
    >                         sdf.setTimeZone(TimeZone.getTimeZone("UTC"));
    >                                 fileDate =
    > sdf.parse(metadataDate).getTime();
    >                         } catch (ParseException e) {
    >                                 // TODO Auto-generated catch block
    >                                 e.printStackTrace();
    >                         } catch (IllegalArgumentException e1) {
    >                                 e1.printStackTrace();
    >                         }
    >                 }
    >
    >         So in general it doesn’t matter what timezone is in the string
    > input, it was cut off anyway.
    >         I added the line:
    >
    >                         sdf.setTimeZone(TimeZone.getTimeZone("UTC"));
    >
    >         But it seems I still have the same issue with the con
    >
    >         re-inspecting the code I noticed, it's probably just the timestamp
    > used in the zip file metadata ... not that used in the catalog.xml.
    >         Will have another look at why I'm having this 36 offset. ... I
    > just did a little math and it's exactly one hour off ...
    >
    >         The difference of all tags is:
    >         3600000 milliseconds, which is exactly one hour. So the timestamps
    > on the CI server are exactly one hour ahead of the builds we do in Europe.
    >
    >         This is currently the last issue preventing us from finishing the
    > steps for the typedefs.
    >
    >         Do you have any idea? ... Anything with the US being Summer-Time
    > and us still on Winter-Time?
    >
    >         Perhaps you could try executing this command in the typedefs:
    >
    >         ant -f releasesteps.xml Release_Step_007 -Drelease.version=0.9.7
    > -DskipTests=true
    >
    >         Would be interesting if this succeeds for you.
    >
    >         Well actually the library.swf in the swc seems to have a "net"
    > Object in the locally built version and a "http" Object instead on the CI
    > Server-Version.
    >
    >         Currently I'm trying to fix the timestamp version and address the
    > other problem after that's solved.
    >
    >         Chris
    >
    >
    >
    >         Am 24.03.20, 20:08 schrieb "Alex Harui" <[email protected]
    > >:
    >
    >             Good to see progress.
    >
    >             Re timestamps:  I’m not quite sure what you are running into.
    >
    >             The builds were taking a time that included a timezone.
    > Here's some output from recent builds:
    >
    >                  [java] -metadata.date=02/25/20 14:51 +0000
    >                  [java] -metadata.dateFormat=MM/dd/yy HH:mm Z
    >
    >             So I'm not sure how the timezone got lost on what you are
    > seeing.  The RM was supposed to type in something like "02/25/20 14:51
    > +0000".  The prompts on the Jenkins job were supposed to hint that.
    >
    >             HTH,
    >             -Alex
    >
    >             On 3/24/20, 7:47 AM, "Carlos Rovira" <[email protected]>
    > wrote:
    >
    >                 Hi Alex,
    >                 I finally said Chris to try it myself, so going with that
    > now :)
    >
    >                 El mar., 24 mar. 2020 a las 15:40, Christofer Dutz (<
    >                 [email protected]>) escribió:
    >
    >                 > Hi Alex,
    >                 >
    >                 > I added a call to set a fixed timezone to the
    > simpledateformat in the
    >                 > SWCWriter ... could you please review this?
    >                 >
    >                 > Chris
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 > Am 24.03.20, 15:26 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
    > [email protected]>:
    >                 >
    >                 >     Hi all,
    >                 >
    >                 >     so today we made progress ... not only did we fix
    > the version skipping
    >                 > we observed yesterday. For this the commands done
    > manually in the 001a step
    >                 > had to be changed.
    >                 >
    >                 >     Now we managed to get the compiler part
    > reproducible, but not so much
    >                 > the typedef part.
    >                 >     We are observing that the same timestamp is passed
    > in to the build
    >                 > when building the release on the ci server and when
    > building the release
    >                 > locally. However the timestamps have a strange constant
    > offset 36 in two
    >                 > digits of the timestamp in the catalog.xml
    >                 >
    >                 >     1585054125000 on the CI server
    >                 >     1585057725000 locally
    >                 >
    >                 >     I am assuming that perhaps there is time-zone
    > information leaking into
    >                 > the parsing of the date as we are using a date-format
    > without time-zone
    >                 > information.
    >                 >
    >                 >     I would assume that Alex, perhaps you could have a
    > look at what's
    >                 > happening in the SWCWriter constructor, where the
    > parsing of the timestamp
    >                 > is implemented.
    >                 >
    >                 >     Thanks,
    >                 >
    >                 >     Chris
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 >     Am 24.03.20, 09:36 schrieb "Christofer Dutz" <
    >                 > [email protected]>:
    >                 >
    >                 >         Hi Alex,
    >                 >
    >                 >         I had another look ... I think the version skips
    > one is in step
    >                 > 001a ...
    >                 >         There the job checks out develop, applies the
    > update to the new
    >                 > version of the build tools and jburg types, but then
    > this is pushed and
    >                 > then again to the release branch (hereby overwriting the
    > old
    >                 > release-branch) ... I'll try out a way with cherry
    > picking the change from
    >                 > develop into the release branch. Unfortunately I haven't
    > been able to find
    >                 > where the text in the emails comes from ...
    >                 >
    >                 >         I'm talking about the order of the constants in
    > the class
    >                 > ProblemID. I forced that to be sorted now. That's why we
    > have to re-release
    >                 > the build tools.
    >                 >
    >                 >         Chris
    >                 >
    >                 >         Am 24.03.20, 08:14 schrieb "Alex Harui"
    > <[email protected]
    >                 > >:
    >                 >
    >                 >             Re: credentials:  Feel free to disable the
    > credential store.
    >                 >  I did not have to both login and go through 2fa to Git
    > Push.  There is
    >                 > some long password/token/credential/hash-like thing you
    > get when you sign
    >                 > up with Apache Git that seems to work when you use it as
    > a password.
    >                 >
    >                 >             Re: the utils steps.  I just looked and it
    > appears that
    >                 > compiler-jburg-types and compiler-build-tools are no
    > longer
    >                 > child/submodules of the root pom.xml in
    > royale-compiler.  So now I get how
    >                 > why the development version won't get bumped up twice.
    > I think the way it
    >                 > was working may be that the updated dev version never
    > got pushed to
    >                 > develop.  If you are satisfied with that setup, that's
    > fine with me.  So
    >                 > then it might make more sense to get rid of 1a and
    > create a whole new set
    >                 > of steps for each of compiler-jburg-types and
    > compiler-build-tools.  If I
    >                 > understand correctly, those new steps would run mvn
    > release:branch, mvn
    >                 > release:prepare and mvn release:perform in
    > compiler-jburg-types or
    >                 > compiler-build-tools, stopping if there are interim
    > pushes that need to be
    >                 > done, then start their own vote emails by copying other
    > CI steps.
    >                 >
    >                 >             I use a Mac and thought I got all binaries
    > to match from the
    >                 > .  I'm not sure what properties you are referring to.
    >                 >
    >                 >             I'm done for tonight.  Will catch up in my
    > morning.
    >                 >
    >                 >             -Alex
    >                 >
    >                 >             On 3/23/20, 11:15 PM, "Christofer Dutz" <
    >                 > [email protected]> wrote:
    >                 >
    >                 >                 Good morning all,
    >                 >
    >                 >                 well I didn't disable anythig as I
    > didn't want to break
    >                 > anything. So I thought before simply changing something
    > I'd ask first.
    >                 >                 So I would consider it a "bug" that it's
    > there and when we
    >                 > continue today, we'll try to find out and disable the
    > thing.
    >                 >                 However I would assume then the RM will
    > not only have to
    >                 > do his usual login but also the 2fa thing at every step
    > too, correct?
    >                 >
    >                 >                 And, just a kindly meant question ...
    > would it be possible
    >                 > to reply at the top instead of inline? I sort of have
    > missed several
    >                 >                 Of your Inline comments in the past as
    > at least in my mail
    >                 > client it's hard to spot what's mine and what's not.
    >                 >                 (I could start counting spaces)
    >                 >
    >                 >                 (I first missed this question of yours
    > ... but discovered
    >                 > it after counting spaces ;-) )
    >                 >
    >                 >                 Well to release the build tool with
    > maven you would simply
    >                 > do the:
    >                 >                 mvn release:prepare
    >                 >                 mvn release:perform
    >                 >                 for each of them, then adjust the main
    > pom and do the mvn
    >                 > release:branch ... then prepare and perform after that.
    >                 >
    >                 >                 Currently also jburg types and the
    > build-tools are sort of
    >                 > released in parallel. With maven you would simply
    > release only the module
    >                 > that's needed to be released. In our case build-tools
    > would have been
    >                 > enough.
    >                 >
    >                 >                 Speaking of build-tools ... are you
    > possibly using Windows
    >                 > as OS on your system? Just asking because the
    > build-tools seem to have
    >                 > always generated a sorted set of properties on windows
    > and an unsorted one
    >                 > on Mac (Seems to be differences in the way the
    > filesystem works) ... in
    >                 > that case it would have been impossible to have a
    > release manager not using
    >                 > Java 8 on a Windows machine. (My changes recently never
    > touched this)
    >                 >
    >                 >                 Chris
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 >                 Am 23.03.20, 22:59 schrieb "Alex Harui"
    >                 > <[email protected]>:
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 >                     On 3/23/20, 2:29 PM, "Christofer
    > Dutz" <
    >                 > [email protected]> wrote:
    >                 >
    >                 >                         Hi Alex,
    >                 >
    >                 >                         sorry for the confusion ,... I
    > meant the 1a ...
    >                 > the one if you build the utils too.
    >                 >
    >                 >                         And regarding the credentials:
    > Something must have
    >                 > changes as I have never seen that gui thingy pop up
    > before and as soon as
    >                 > you login, it saves them in the password manager thingy
    > of windows.
    >                 >
    >                 >                     Did you try to disable the password
    > manager?
    >                 >
    >                 >                         It is true that I took those two
    > out of the main
    >                 > maven reactor, but that's actually a good practice. In
    > plc4x we setup a
    >                 > dedicated git repo for releasing these build tools. I
    > have never seen any
    >                 > good coming from the old setup (I know ... I did it, but
    > I learnt a lot).
    >                 >
    >                 >                     I am not opposed to moving those two
    > projects to a
    >                 > different repo.  It would require that we have a truly
    > separate release
    >                 > vote for them, so more work in that regard, and the Ant
    > build would have to
    >                 > be adjusted to download those jars.  I'm not sure now is
    > the time to make
    >                 > that change, but maybe.  Let's see what others think.
    >                 >
    >                 >                         Regarding the banches ... we did
    > a git status
    >                 > after step 001a (the utils step) and indeed it was done
    > on develop. As the
    >                 > maven release isn't doing any selecting and switching of
    > branches it must
    >                 > have always been this way. If not the utils release
    > versions would only be
    >                 > updated in the release branch and not develop. I
    > couldn't find any cherry
    >                 > picking of commits in the process.
    >                 >
    >                 >                         Well in the end the steps are
    > way more complicated
    >                 > than I would be doing on my local machine. Especially
    > this tolling around
    >                 > checking out branches and tagging and pushing is pretty
    > complicated, in my
    >                 > opinion. Especially as most the stuff is fully 
automated.
    >                 >
    >                 >                     The Maven Release plugin
    > automatically pushes and
    >                 > signs, so yes, the CI steps are more complicated because
    > they have to
    >                 > continue on, but if there is a better way to stop and
    > continue, let us know
    >                 > what that is.  But I was mainly addressing the
    > branch/version issue for
    >                 > those two "utils" projects.  What would be the correct
    > set of Maven Release
    >                 > commands to manage that locally without updating the
    > develop version
    >                 > twice?  Or maybe as you mention above, there really is
    > no good way and a
    >                 > separate repo is essentially the only way.
    >                 >
    >                 >                         I think we managed to get the
    > steps 1-4 (including
    >                 > the utils stuff) working again, while keeping the
    > cleanup I did a while
    >                 > ago.
    >                 >
    >                 >                         I hope tomorrow it'll be simper
    > to adjust the
    >                 > typedefs and the framework part.
    >                 >
    >                 >                         One thing we did notice however
    > that even after
    >                 > addressing the memory issues, the build sometimes simply
    > stuck and the
    >                 > build wouldn't continue.
    >                 >                         In these cases simply killing
    > the job (and the
    >                 > processes on the CI server) didn't really help much ...
    > we then had to
    >                 > reboot the machine in order to continue. I think we
    > rebooted the thing 5-6
    >                 > times today.
    >                 >
    >                 >                     My experience was that the Jenkins
    > slave would
    >                 > occasionally disconnect and the job would fail right
    > away.  Rebooting
    >                 > didn’t help.  I didn't see it get stuck so unfortunately
    > you are seeing
    >                 > something new that I haven't seen.  Did you search the
    > internet to see if
    >                 > anyone else reported something similar with Jenkins?
    >                 >
    >                 >                         Signing off for today,
    >                 >
    >                 >                         Chris
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 >                         Am 23.03.20, 21:38 schrieb "Alex
    > Harui"
    >                 > <[email protected]>:
    >                 >
    >                 >                             Re: credentials:  Does that
    > mean that the git
    >                 > config is set to use the credential manager?  If so,
    > maybe that should be
    >                 > turned off?  When I did the release, I had to type my
    > password many times.
    >                 > Not sure what Piotr's experience was.
    >                 >
    >                 >                             Re: Branches:    I don't
    > remember what the
    >                 > steps are.  I didn't think there was a 1b, I don't see
    > it in my emails,
    >                 > just a 1a that did both compiler-jburg-types and
    > compiler-build-tools.
    >                 > Assuming 1a and 1b now reference these two projects, the
    > thing to keep in
    >                 > mind is that they are optional projects and so 1a (and
    > probably 1b) won't
    >                 > be run for every release.  So, IMO, the branch should be
    > made for the main
    >                 > projects in royale-compiler.
    >                 >
    >                 >                             But if the changes you made
    > effectively change
    >                 > the way the poms are run (when there was a -utils
    > profile for those two
    >                 > projects, the main pom still got loaded and that may not
    > be true now), then
    >                 > the set of steps may need to test for existence of the
    > branch or something
    >                 > like that, not sure.
    >                 >
    >                 >                             In the end, the steps are
    > just what you would
    >                 > run on your local computer to fill the nexus staging
    > repo, but broken into
    >                 > discrete steps at each point Maven would normally push
    > or sign.  If you
    >                 > haven’t, it might be worth just running Maven locally to
    > fill a staging
    >                 > repo with and without the jburg-types and build-tools
    > projects to see how
    >                 > to control when Maven makes branches and updates
    > versions.  Then come back
    >                 > and break that down into steps on the CI server.
    >                 >
    >                 >                             HTH,
    >                 >                             -Alex
    >                 >
    >                 >                             On 3/23/20, 12:30 PM,
    > "Christofer Dutz" <
    >                 > [email protected]> wrote:
    >                 >
    >                 >                                 Another thing we just
    > discovered.
    >                 >
    >                 >                                 The current setup seems
    > to mess up the
    >                 > branches:
    >                 >                                 - 001 creates the branch
    > and updates
    >                 > develop rel = 0.9.7-SNAPSHOT, develop = 0.9.8-SNAPSHOT
    >                 >                                 - 001b updates DEVELOP
    > and not the release
    >                 > branch
    >                 >                                 - 002 pushes develop to
    > the release-branch
    >                 > hereby bumping the release branch to the next version
    > rel = 0.9.8-SNAPSHOT,
    >                 > develop = 0.9.8-SNAPSHOT
    >                 >
    >                 >                                 If the 001b changes
    > would have been done
    >                 > in the release branch, develop would still be using the
    > old version.
    >                 >
    >                 >                                 So I would propose to
    > change the order of
    >                 > 001 and 001b to "release" the build tools before
    > branching.
    >                 >
    >                 >                                 And I would propose to
    > fix 002 to work on
    >                 > the right branch. As I could see in maven central you
    > have been releasing
    >                 > only even version number so I assume this problem exists
    > for quite some
    >                 > time now.
    >                 >
    >                 >                                 Chris
    >                 >
    >                 >                                 Am 23.03.20, 20:12
    > schrieb "Carlos Rovira"
    >                 > <[email protected]>:
    >                 >
    >                 >                                     Hi,
    >                 >                                     we just saw that
    > windows stores a
    >                 > personal access token in Windows
    >                 >                                     Crendetials, so the
    > RM is responsible
    >                 > to remove it when finish all the
    >                 >                                     operations.
    >                 >
    >                 >
    >                 >                                     El lun., 23 mar.
    > 2020 a las 19:44,
    >                 > Alex Harui (<[email protected]>)
    >                 >                                     escribió:
    >                 >
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     > On 3/23/20, 11:32
    > AM, "Christofer
    >                 > Dutz" <[email protected]>
    >                 >                                     > wrote:
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     >     Hi Alex,
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     >     I did check
    > and I didn't
    >                 > directly find any .git .ssh or whatsoever
    >                 >                                     > directories ... do
    > you have an Idea
    >                 > where that would be saved on windows?
    >                 >                                     >     The commits
    > are authorized by
    >                 > Carlos and it's his RDP connection,
    >                 >                                     > that's why I'm
    > asking if there is
    >                 > any RDP magic going on. I didn't see him
    >                 >                                     > entering anything
    > anywhere and he
    >                 > said he didn't do it before.
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     > I don't know for
    > sure, but here's a
    >                 > few links:
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >
    > 
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    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >
    > 
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    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     > I'm wondering if
    > Carlos can remember
    >                 > if he did.anything like that back
    >                 >                                     > when he wrote 
this:
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >                                     >
    >                 >
    > 
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    >                 >                                     > HTH,
    >                 >                                     > -Alex
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