That would be awesome ...
they do have charts where you can let the rest of the typical industrial UIs
just die instantly when comparing to them ;-)
Chris
Am 29.05.20, 17:42 schrieb "OmPrakash Muppirala" <bigosma...@gmail.com>:
On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 7:12 AM Christofer Dutz <christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
wrote:
> Exactly ...
>
> understanding the Strands and Beads is something I would mention. Still
> haven't 100% understood this.
>
> Other thing is that I usually made heavy use of spark skinning ... so in
> my past applications I used this quite a lot especially in my
> form-framework I built ... you could just define "widget" tags in the form
> skin and have "widget-model" objects in the logic and they automatically
> found each other and I switched the skin of a "widget" depending on the
> state of the view, the datatype of the form field and the data in it. This
> seems something I would have to do completely different.
>
> But haven't dug too deep into it. Right now I'm just scratching the
> surface.
>
> I do want to play around with integrating BabylonJS into a Royale
> application (3d visualization of an industrial digital twin) ... or
getting
> ECharts into it. But one step at a time __
>
I have a branch where I started integrating Echarts. Let me try dusting it
up and reviving it.
Thanks,
Om
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Am 29.05.20, 16:04 schrieb "Andrew Wetmore" <cottag...@gmail.com>:
>
> Thank you for this narrative, Chris. Helps me understand a lot.
>
> Here's a thing you could help me with in the documentation line: when
> you
> came to Royale after a long period away from the FlexJS world, what
> were
> the elements of Royale that were the least intuitive and the trickiest
> to
> figure out? For me, to give an example, strands and beads have been a
> struggle (not so much the concept as finding the right bead to go with
> the
> right component).
>
> I want to provide better guidance in the docs on the tricky areas.
> Would be
> happy for any topics you can suggest, or text you could provide.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 10:38 AM Christofer Dutz <
> christofer.d...@c-ware.de>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I would like to take the opportunity of a quiet Friday and say hello
> and
> > apologize for any mess my appearance here might have caused.
> >
> > For all of those to whom I might be a new face, I was strongly
> involved in
> > the past in the Flex project when Royale was still called FlexJS.
> > Let’s say our ways parted for quite some time. Possibly not on the
> best
> > terms.
> >
> > In the past I have been working sort of on the opposite side of IT
> than
> > UI: In the Apache PLC4X project. Here I’m mainly talking to
> industrial
> > hardware.
> > The thing is: I loved Flex, I loved what FlexJS/Royale was then
> promising
> > to be so I kept following the project from a birds-eye-view. But
> admittedly
> > I didn’t build anything with it.
> >
> > As PLC4X was maturing more and more I more and more had requests
> asking me
> > to actually build application using PLC4X to show industrial
> machineries
> > state and to interact with it. Therefore I had to go back into
> UI-stuff.
> > Still having Royale in the back of my mind, I played with it and
> instantly
> > fell back in love with it. I knew not everything was perfect, but
> Greg
> > helped me greatly with the AMF stuff, Carlos helped me with getting
> back
> > into the saddle with the changed Royale concepts.
> >
> > So I chatted with a few folks as I noticed the last release was
> already
> > half a year ago to what the issue was. I was told that people in the
> > project were hesitant to participate as a RM as the last times this
> was
> > done it was perceived as a pretty intense task. This was the first
> time I
> > directly heard about “the 13 steps”.
> >
> > So I sort of have a trail of helping other projects if they are
> having
> > problems with releasing and in particular with Maven builds, so I
> thought
> > I’d give it a try and have a look if I can help.
> >
> > I forked all 3 Royale repos and had a look at the maven build.
> >
> > I found quite a lot of things I recognized from other projects and
> > therefore could imagine what they were intended for. In the end I
> found a
> > lot of workarounds for previous problems in the build. Problems that
> were
> > now obsolete or for which other approaches are much simpler. Also I
> knew
> > quite a few solutions to problems that were previously reported. So
I
> > cleaned up the plugin configuration, I cleaned up with the profiles.
> Last I
> > even added some checks that validate the local machine configuration
> if
> > everything is setup correctly.
> >
> > This was intended as a proposal for improvement. I knew that
> especially
> > renaming profiles will have an influence on tooling that is calling
> these.
> > I did test if it broke the normal Ant build, but it didn’t. So the
> only
> > parts I could imagine would be affected would be Jenkins Steps and
> Ant
> > Automation built around Maven. My hope was that we could work
> together to
> > adjust these parts and in the end all be happy.
> >
> > Unfortunately the PR was merged within a timeframe I felt extremely
> > uncomfortable with. I even told the person who merged it that I
> would have
> > been happy if he hadn’t done that.
> >
> > I think this was when things got off the rails.
> >
> > We started an extremely unhealthy communication with me using
> community
> > members as proxies as I didn’t feel welcome in participating on the
> list
> > directly (To the reasons why, I have had one on one video chats with
> some
> > Royale folks). I decided to subscribe despite my hesitation when I
> saw that
> > things weren’t transported 100% the way I had intended them to. So
to
> > prevent things from going off the rails even more I subscribed.
> >
> > I had 100% good intentions … after all I wanted to start using
Royale
> > again. But seeing the first responses blaming me of not being able
to
> > release made me switch to “defensive mode” … in the following
> discussions I
> > have to admit that I also switched to “confrontive discussion mode”,
> which
> > I shouldn’t have. I would like to apologize for this. Also I was
told
> > people felt personally attacked by my emails. I re-read them
multiple
> > times. I would say that I showed dissent, but I didn’t see or intend
> them
> > as attacks. If on the other side they were perceived as such, I
> would like
> > to apologize and assure they were not meant as personal attacks.
> >
> > So I hope anyone here that felt attacked by me will accept my
> apology.
> >
> > If you folks want to, I will be happy to assist, if not – that’s
> probably
> > something I have to live with.
> >
> > In that case I will probably just unsubscribe and leave you alone.
> >
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
>
