Let’s move discussion to other thread. I think you and I have similar instincts; we need a clear choice to vote on.
> On Nov 21, 2023, at 9:26 AM, Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org> wrote: > > Hey Julian, > > I just started a discussion thread to rank preferences on the various > candidates with the idea of holding a vote to ratify the favorite. We can > replace that with this kind of vote if it's easier; I went for a two-step > process as I was under the impression formal votes were more yes/no than > multiple-option. > >> On 2023/11/21 17:21:37 Julian Hyde wrote: >> What are the options to vote on? I presume A, B, C in more-sdap-logos.jpg, >> plus the original proposal (in any of its variants, with and without Apache >> and TM). >> >> If so, let’s convert to a simple voting form >> >> [ ] logo A >> [ ] logo B >> [ ] logo C >> [ ] original >> >> and launch a [VOTE] thread. If people write in extra preferences - which >> they are welcome to do - then we may need a run-off vote. Democracy is messy. >> >> Julian >> >> >> >>>> On Nov 21, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) >>>> <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> Hi community, >>> >>> There have three professionally designed SDAP logos (see >>> more_sdap_logos.jpg) ready for your vote. >>> >>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SDAP-491 >>> >>> Logo meaning >>> - SDAP was originated from NASA's research in private cloud computing. It >>> would be appropriate to include something that represents its NASA >>> heritage, hence the use of the NASA worm font (options A and C) >>> - Hexagon is a symbol for strength. It is the building block of honeycombs. >>> - Honeycomb represents expandable storage. The left hexagon in options A >>> and C represent expandability (moving to connect with other hexagons). >>> - A honeycomb also provides a place for parallel operations. >>> - The use of different color represents inclusive and diversity. >>> >>> We would like to start using our selected new logo at the December AGU >>> event in San Francisco. Voting is now open. Please cast your vote by this >>> Saturday 11/25/2023. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Thomas. >>> >>> ---- >>> Thomas Huang >>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems >>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology >>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 11/19/23, 3:53 PM, "Huang, Thomas (US 398F)" <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov >>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Great ideas, Thomas L. I am added your suggestion to the list for the >>> community to choose from. I should have a revision early this week. >>> >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> >>> Thomas. >>> >>> >>> ---- >>> Thomas Huang >>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software >>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems >>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology >>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 11/18/23, 4:07 PM, "Loubrieu, Thomas G (US 398F)" >>>> <thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva >>>> <mailto:thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> >>>> <mailto:thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva >>>> <mailto:thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>>LID> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> That looks great, I like the colors and the overall idea of logo with these >>> hexagonal cells connected. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I was thinking, for the readibility of SDAP acronym that would be better to >>> have all the letters on one horizontal line. >>> One idea could be to keep 2 hexagonal cells, the one filled with the >>> colored sub cells, and one on the top left with the full acronym SDAP in a >>> single line. We would remove the 3 other cells. It feels to me that that >>> would also lighten the overall design so that it can more easily be used in >>> smaller sizes. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thomas >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Get Outlook for >>> iOS<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PY1u1SmML9_ZeRBpM2ZJx5Hji6xeo8xc2gayPV-bfC7d2stEnELCQqRaMp1UjP_wfwkBoRdwcdg4SuiqwJ3pxAn-YI_Cl7MiAUvu1oPhwuyQHXY$ >>> >>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PY1u1SmML9_ZeRBpM2ZJx5Hji6xeo8xc2gayPV-bfC7d2stEnELCQqRaMp1UjP_wfwkBoRdwcdg4SuiqwJ3pxAn-YI_Cl7MiAUvu1oPhwuyQHXY$> >>> >>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PY1u1SmML9_ZeRBpM2ZJx5Hji6xeo8xc2gayPV-bfC7d2stEnELCQqRaMp1UjP_wfwkBoRdwcdg4SuiqwJ3pxAn-YI_Cl7MiAUvu1oPhwuyQHXY$ >>> >>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PY1u1SmML9_ZeRBpM2ZJx5Hji6xeo8xc2gayPV-bfC7d2stEnELCQqRaMp1UjP_wfwkBoRdwcdg4SuiqwJ3pxAn-YI_Cl7MiAUvu1oPhwuyQHXY$>> >>> > >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com <mailto:jhyde.apa...@gmail.com> >>> <mailto:jhyde.apa...@gmail.com <mailto:jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>>> >>> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 5:36:07 PM >>> To: dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org> >>> <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org>> >>> <dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org> >>> <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org>>> >>> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] SDAP logo consideration >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I prefer the bold font, with the Apache/TM. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> A couple of suggestions: move Apache to the top-left corner, and move the >>> TM as a suffix to the ‘P’, so you can (kind of) read ‘Apache SDAP TM’ >>> left-to-right. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Also add a small white border (maybe 2 pixels) so that the logo can be used >>> on a dark background. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Julian >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Nga Chung <nch...@apache.org >>>> <mailto:nch...@apache.org> <mailto:nch...@apache.org >>>> <mailto:nch...@apache.org>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Thomas for providing additional updates to the logo. >>>> >>>> All, please provide your feedback on the logo design and whether you >>>> like the regular or bolded lettering. >>>> >>>> Regular: >>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP>>*20logo.png__;JQ!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQOcWkmkeQ$ >>>> Bold: >>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP>>*20logo*20bold.png__;JSU!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQPRINdU7Q$ >>>> >>>> Regular with Apache TM: >>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP>>*20logo*20Apache*20TM.png__;JSUl!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQNO5LeAnw$ >>>> Bold with Apache TM: >>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP> >>>> >>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP>>*20logo*20bold*20Apache*20TM.png__;JSUlJQ!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQMahDIqhg$ >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Nga >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 4:25 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org >>>>> <mailto:jh...@apache.org> <mailto:jh...@apache.org >>>>> <mailto:jh...@apache.org>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the slack invite, Riley. >>>>> >>>>> I see the logo is now attached to the Jira case: >>>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP >>>>> >>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP> >>>>> >>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP> >>>>> >>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP>>*20logo.png__;JQ!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQOcWkmkeQ$ >>>>> >>>>> I like the design and the beehive concept. >>>>> >>>>> It's useful if the logo includes the word 'Apache' and the superscript >>>>> 'TM'. That way, by including the logo on the first slide of a >>>>> presentation, you've immediately addressed a number of branding >>>>> issues. >>>>> >>>>> Julian >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 3:43 PM Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org >>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I added you to the channel. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2023/11/16 23:39:53 Julian Hyde wrote: >>>>>>> Curious fact. I have never seen the Slack channel. And I have never >>>>>>> been able to discover its URL. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Huang, Thomas (US 398F) >>>>>>> <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> >>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva >>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>>lid> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also posted my logo design on the Apache #sdap slack channel. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thomas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> Thomas Huang >>>>>>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software >>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems >>>>>>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology >>>>>>>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/16/23, 3:36 PM, "Huang, Thomas (US 398F)" >>>>>>>> <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva >>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> >>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva >>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva >>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> >>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva >>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>>>LID> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Strange. My JPL email was marked as invalid on the SDAP list. >>>>>>>> Reattached. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thomas. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>> Thomas Huang >>>>>>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software >>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems >>>>>>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology >>>>>>>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/16/23, 3:33 PM, "Riley Kuttruff" <r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hey Thomas, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The image isn't displaying for me on any of my devices. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Riley >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2023/11/16 23:29:21 "Huang, Thomas (US 398F)" wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> SDAP is a parallel data management and analysis platform. When >>>>>>>>> talking about parallel systems, I always use a beehive as an analogy >>>>>>>>> (Riley and Josh, I hope you still remember this in the lecture). Each >>>>>>>>> worker bee works independently, but at some point, they would >>>>>>>>> communicate with one another (synchronization). Together, they >>>>>>>>> construct and maintain a beehive (a system). I am using the Apache >>>>>>>>> colors here, because they represent free and open to me. Since we >>>>>>>>> will have a poster at the December AGU, it would be great to have a >>>>>>>>> logo on the poster. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vote? Suggestion? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [cid:image001.png@01DA18A1.ABFD <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd>>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd>> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd >>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd>>>>33B0] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thomas. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---- >>>>>>>>> Thomas Huang >>>>>>>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software >>>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems >>>>>>>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology >>>>>>>>> (818) 354-2747<tel:(818)%20354-2747> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>