Let’s move discussion to other thread. I think you and I have similar 
instincts; we need a clear choice to vote on. 

> On Nov 21, 2023, at 9:26 AM, Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> Hey Julian,
> 
> I just started a discussion thread to rank preferences on the various 
> candidates with the idea of holding a vote to ratify the favorite. We can 
> replace that with this kind of vote if it's easier; I went for a two-step 
> process as I was under the impression formal votes were more yes/no than 
> multiple-option.
> 
>> On 2023/11/21 17:21:37 Julian Hyde wrote:
>> What are the options to vote on? I presume A, B, C in more-sdap-logos.jpg, 
>> plus the original proposal (in any of its variants, with and without Apache 
>> and TM).
>> 
>> If so, let’s convert to a simple voting form
>> 
>> [   ] logo A
>> [   ] logo B
>> [   ] logo C
>> [   ] original
>> 
>> and launch a [VOTE] thread. If people write in extra preferences - which 
>> they are welcome to do - then we may need a run-off vote. Democracy is messy.
>> 
>> Julian
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Nov 21, 2023, at 9:06 AM, Huang, Thomas (US 398F) 
>>>> <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi community,
>>> 
>>> There have three professionally designed SDAP logos (see 
>>> more_sdap_logos.jpg) ready for your vote.
>>> 
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SDAP-491
>>> 
>>> Logo meaning
>>> - SDAP was originated from NASA's research in private cloud computing. It 
>>> would be appropriate to include something that represents its NASA 
>>> heritage, hence the use of the NASA worm font (options A and C)
>>> - Hexagon is a symbol for strength. It is the building block of honeycombs.
>>> - Honeycomb represents expandable storage. The left hexagon in options A 
>>> and C represent expandability (moving to connect with other hexagons).
>>> - A honeycomb also provides a place for parallel operations.
>>> - The use of different color represents inclusive and diversity.
>>> 
>>> We would like to start using our selected new logo at the December AGU 
>>> event in San Francisco. Voting is now open. Please cast your vote by this 
>>> Saturday 11/25/2023.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> Thomas.
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> Thomas Huang
>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 11/19/23, 3:53 PM, "Huang, Thomas (US 398F)" <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov 
>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Great ideas, Thomas L. I am added your suggestion to the list for the 
>>> community to choose from. I should have a revision early this week.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thomas.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ----
>>> Thomas Huang
>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 11/18/23, 4:07 PM, "Loubrieu, Thomas G (US 398F)" 
>>>> <thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva 
>>>> <mailto:thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> 
>>>> <mailto:thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva 
>>>> <mailto:thomas.g.loubr...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>>LID> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That looks great, I like the colors and the overall idea of logo with these 
>>> hexagonal cells connected.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I was thinking, for the readibility of SDAP acronym that would be better to 
>>> have all the letters on one horizontal line.
>>> One idea could be to keep 2 hexagonal cells, the one filled with the 
>>> colored sub cells, and one on the top left with the full acronym SDAP in a 
>>> single line. We would remove the 3 other cells. It feels to me that that 
>>> would also lighten the overall design so that it can more easily be used in 
>>> smaller sizes.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thomas
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Get Outlook for 
>>> iOS<https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://aka.ms/o0ukef__;!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!PY1u1SmML9_ZeRBpM2ZJx5Hji6xeo8xc2gayPV-bfC7d2stEnELCQqRaMp1UjP_wfwkBoRdwcdg4SuiqwJ3pxAn-YI_Cl7MiAUvu1oPhwuyQHXY$
>>>  
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>>>  
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>>>  
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>>>  >
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Julian Hyde <jhyde.apa...@gmail.com <mailto:jhyde.apa...@gmail.com> 
>>> <mailto:jhyde.apa...@gmail.com <mailto:jhyde.apa...@gmail.com>>>
>>> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 5:36:07 PM
>>> To: dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org> 
>>> <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org>> 
>>> <dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org> 
>>> <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org <mailto:dev@sdap.apache.org>>>
>>> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] SDAP logo consideration
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I prefer the bold font, with the Apache/TM.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A couple of suggestions: move Apache to the top-left corner, and move the 
>>> TM as a suffix to the ‘P’, so you can (kind of) read ‘Apache SDAP TM’ 
>>> left-to-right.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Also add a small white border (maybe 2 pixels) so that the logo can be used 
>>> on a dark background.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Julian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 17, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Nga Chung <nch...@apache.org 
>>>> <mailto:nch...@apache.org> <mailto:nch...@apache.org 
>>>> <mailto:nch...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Thomas for providing additional updates to the logo.
>>>> 
>>>> All, please provide your feedback on the logo design and whether you
>>>> like the regular or bolded lettering.
>>>> 
>>>> Regular: 
>>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP&gt;>*20logo.png__;JQ!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQOcWkmkeQ$
>>>> Bold: 
>>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064498/SDAP&gt;>*20logo*20bold.png__;JSU!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQPRINdU7Q$
>>>> 
>>>> Regular with Apache TM:
>>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064497/SDAP&gt;>*20logo*20Apache*20TM.png__;JSUl!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQNO5LeAnw$
>>>> Bold with Apache TM:
>>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP>
>>>>  
>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064496/SDAP&gt;>*20logo*20bold*20Apache*20TM.png__;JSUlJQ!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQMahDIqhg$
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Nga
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 4:25 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org 
>>>>> <mailto:jh...@apache.org> <mailto:jh...@apache.org 
>>>>> <mailto:jh...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for the slack invite, Riley.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see the logo is now attached to the Jira case:
>>>>> https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP>
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP>
>>>>>  
>>>>> <https://urldefense.us/v3/__https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/13064470/SDAP&gt;>*20logo.png__;JQ!!PvBDto6Hs4WbVuu7!N_eB2dXDPV6LEQOWcDgKfQGZtY0GelQcsrgGmm73qf70COG4u1Cxfsqkl6LHqtzO-Ibnb18Gw_vRl-JBmQOcWkmkeQ$
>>>>> 
>>>>> I like the design and the beehive concept.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's useful if the logo includes the word 'Apache' and the superscript
>>>>> 'TM'. That way, by including the logo on the first slide of a
>>>>> presentation, you've immediately addressed a number of branding
>>>>> issues.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Julian
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 3:43 PM Riley Kuttruff <r...@apache.org 
>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I added you to the channel.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2023/11/16 23:39:53 Julian Hyde wrote:
>>>>>>> Curious fact. I have never seen the Slack channel. And I have never
>>>>>>> been able to discover its URL.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 3:37 PM Huang, Thomas (US 398F)
>>>>>>> <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> 
>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva 
>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>>lid> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I also posted my logo design on the Apache #sdap slack channel.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thomas.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>> Thomas Huang
>>>>>>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>>>>>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/23, 3:36 PM, "Huang, Thomas (US 398F)" 
>>>>>>>> <thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>> 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva> 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:thomas.hu...@jpl.nasa.gov.inva>>>LID> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Strange. My JPL email was marked as invalid on the SDAP list. 
>>>>>>>> Reattached.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thomas.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>> Thomas Huang
>>>>>>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>>>>>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>> (818) 354-2747 <tel:(818)%20354-2747>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 11/16/23, 3:33 PM, "Riley Kuttruff" <r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org> <mailto:r...@apache.org 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:r...@apache.org>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hey Thomas,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The image isn't displaying for me on any of my devices.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -Riley
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 2023/11/16 23:29:21 "Huang, Thomas (US 398F)" wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> SDAP is a parallel data management and analysis platform. When 
>>>>>>>>> talking about parallel systems, I always use a beehive as an analogy 
>>>>>>>>> (Riley and Josh, I hope you still remember this in the lecture). Each 
>>>>>>>>> worker bee works independently, but at some point, they would 
>>>>>>>>> communicate with one another (synchronization). Together, they 
>>>>>>>>> construct and maintain a beehive (a system). I am using the Apache 
>>>>>>>>> colors here, because they represent free and open to me. Since we 
>>>>>>>>> will have a poster at the December AGU, it would be great to have a 
>>>>>>>>> logo on the poster.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Vote? Suggestion?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [cid:image001.png@01DA18A1.ABFD <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd 
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>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd>>> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd>> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd> 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd 
>>>>>>>>> <mailto:image001....@01da18a1.abfd>>>>33B0]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thomas.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>>>> Thomas Huang
>>>>>>>>> Group Supervisor, Data Product Generation Software
>>>>>>>>> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems
>>>>>>>>> Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology
>>>>>>>>> (818) 354-2747<tel:(818)%20354-2747>
>>>>>>>>> 
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