+1 for Committer == PPMC approach, since it does bring diversities from different perspectives.
Best, Hao On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Ma, Junjie <[email protected]> wrote: > I agree this will encourage involvement and ensure vitality, and vote for > Committer == PMC. > > Best regards, > > Colin Ma(Ma Jun Jie) > > -----Original Message----- > From: Gregory Chanan [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 4:07 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Committer == PPMC for Sentry? > > I think at the current time the benefit of growing the community by adding > to the PMC outweighs the risk of adding PMC members who may only be "ready" > for committership. So I'd vote for Committer == PMC. If that calculation > changes in the future, we can revisit. > > Greg > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Sravya Tirukkovalur <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Yes, I agree that Sentry has been mostly operating with decisions > > being made on dev list ( PPMC + Committer + contributors). > > > > I looked at various other projects, and was trying to look at why > > Committer = PPMC makes sense in some settings and not in some. Seems > > like Committer = PPMC makes sense during incubation as it would drive > > more folks thinking of building the community which is super important > > given the small time in incubation. Not saying non PPMC do not work on > > building the community but it just gives extra push by giving rights > > on electing committers. Given that, I would like to see Committer == > > PPMC in Sentry. One thing we might consider is: All committers who > > have contributed (code and non code) after entering graduation? > > > > Thanks! > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:03 PM, Anne Yu <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > After investigation, it seems for some existing projects we do see > > > Committer == PPMC, and it is up to project community's decision. For > > > example here states, "In many projects committers are also invited > > > to be part of the core group within the project that ensures the > > > project's vitality (represented by the Project Management Committee, > > > PMC). In a few projects a only a subset of committers, who have > > > earned even more merit, are invited to be a part of the PMC. " > > > > > > It appears sentry is contributing voluntarily by a smaller size of > > > active committers, to encourage involvement and ensure vitality, we > > > can start to consider this Committer == PPMC approach. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Anne > > > > > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 12:54 AM, Lenni Kuff <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > This is breaking off a separate discussion for the thread Sravya > > started > > > > [1]. Specifically, the part around whether Sentry should move > > > > from a > > > model > > > > where Committer != PPMC to a model where Committer == PPMC. > > > > > > > > Background: > > > > It's been two years since the Sentry project entered incubation > > > > and > > over > > > > that time we have welcomed many new community members, as > > > > committers and contributors. However, we have not added any new > > > > PPMC members over > > > the > > > > same time period. This is concerning because building a successful > > > > community means growing committers as well as growing the PPMC. > > > > At the same time, we have strived to be a very open community, and > > > involve > > > > everyone (not just PPMC members) in project decisions. As Arvind > > > mentioned > > > > [2], there have been few instances, outside of committership/board > > > reports, > > > > where the PPMC made decisions outside of the dev list. > > > > > > > > Given that we have a) in some ways implicitly been acting in a > > Committer > > > == > > > > PPMC model already and b) have many new folks in the community > > > > from > > when > > > > the project started, I think we should revisit this topic. > > > > > > > > I want to hear everyone's thoughts on whether you think we should > > > > go > > with > > > > Committer == PPMC model for Sentry? Logistically, this would mean > > > > all existing committers would become PPMC members and there would > > > > be no distinction between committer and PPMC member moving forward. > > > > > > > > Feel free to also chime in if you disagree with my assessment above. > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/sentry-dev/201511.mbox/%3CCAC > > MN7iwY1FXCN6iGTJAN28MC4v%3DFUpKAzvdqVRNq9%3DK7YcomtQ%40mail.gmail.com% > > 3E > > > > > > > > [2] > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/sentry-dev/201511.mbox/%3CCAH > > UddLMOeq7q4XFpy6VcCcmetUjt5iazf1fNmXv15EXJrypTWg%40mail.gmail.com%3E > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Lenni > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Thanks, > > > Anne > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Sravya Tirukkovalur > > >
