sorry, i was out of office for a while...

+1 for me

Kristian

2008/8/25 Lars Heinemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> +1
>
> this would be the best naming imho.
>
> Regards
> Lars
>
>
>
> Am Montag 25 August 2008 10:39:03 schrieb Guillaume Nodet:
> > I'd like to revive this discussion as I think we should start
> > releasing the components asap.
> > I no one has any better idea, we could go for xxxx.yy, where xxxx is
> > the current year, and yy an incrementing counter.
> > The first release would then be 2008.01 and the next one 2008.02, etc...
> > Thoughts ?
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 8:06 AM, Kristian Köhler
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > A version number like 2008.01 looks good to me.
> > >
> > > Splitting the version number scheme for the components from the scheme
> > > used for the assemblies is just an idea.. I'm not sure if we
> 'definitely'
> > > need it. I think I could make things clearer...
> > >
> > > I'm torn between the current version scheme and a possible new one.
> > >
> > > Any other comments?
> > >
> > > Kristian
> > >
> > > 2008/7/22 Guillaume Nodet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> The 8.8 numbering seems a bit confusing to me, as it is not obvious
> > >> that the date is used.  The consequence is that people will be
> > >> confused about major versions change, etc...
> > >> So I'd rather have 2008.01, so that it becomes more obvious that the
> > >> first part is a not a major version number.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Kristian Köhler
> > >>
> > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > Thanks Gert ;-)
> > >> >
> > >> > I thought a lot about it and I think what confuses me (and perhaps
> > >> > some others) the most is the fact that the components have a similar
> > >> > looking version than 'one container' (ServiceMix 4). My first
> thought
> > >> > is to use component version 4 in ServiceMix 4 because there is a
> > >> > version 3 which
> > >>
> > >> works
> > >>
> > >> > with ServiceMix 3.
> > >> >
> > >> > Not sure if this justifies a reversioning of the components but this
> > >>
> > >> would
> > >>
> > >> > make things clearer IMHO. ;-)
> > >> >
> > >> > The idea is to use a separate version scheme for all parts which are
> > >> > used
> > >>
> > >> in
> > >>
> > >> > SM3 and SM4 (components, shared, common). The scheme might look like
> > >> > what Gert described (2008.01 or 8.1 (first release) or 8.8
> > >> > (2008/aug)).
> > >> >
> > >> > Perhaps this is a temporary issue while we ship two versions of
> > >> > ServiceMix...
> > >> >
> > >> > After all I think we should ship SM 3.2.2 as soon as possible ;-)
> > >> >
> > >> > Kristian
> > >> >
> > >> > 2008/7/21 Gert Vanthienen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> >> L.S.,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I don't think Kristian is proposing not to give any version numbers
> > >> >> to
> > >>
> > >> the
> > >>
> > >> >> components, but rather not to give them a version number that can
> be
> > >> >> confused with any given container's version number -- using
> something
> > >>
> > >> like
> > >>
> > >> >> years/months in the versioning instead.  Let's say for a moment we
> > >> >> give
> > >>
> > >> all
> > >>
> > >> >> the components an initial version of 2008.01 right now to indicate
> > >> >> the first
> > >> >> release of a component for 2008.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> That still leaves Bruce's suggestion for using code names for the
> > >> >> major releases of SMX 3 and 4.  We could have a ServiceMix 3.3
> 'Isis'
> > >> >> release that
> > >> >> contains the 2008.01 version of this component as well as
> ServiceMix
> > >> >> 4.0 'Ra' release shipping with the same version of the component.
> > >> >> This way, users wouldn't get confused over the version of the
> > >> >> component not
> > >>
> > >> matching
> > >>
> > >> >> the version of the container, because they would at first glance
> > >> >> notice that
> > >> >> these things use completely different versioning schemes.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Am I getting this right, Kristian?  Actually, I like the idea.
> > >> >> Instead
> > >>
> > >> of
> > >>
> > >> >> wondering whether we version the components 3.x or 4.x to cause the
> > >>
> > >> least
> > >>
> > >> >> confusion as we have done before, we just version them entirely
> > >> >> different...
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Gert
> > >> >>
> > >> >> gnodet wrote:
> > >> >> > servicemix-shared and all components should work on any version
> of
> > >> >> > the servicemix jbi container, be it 3 or 4.  They should also
> work
> > >> >> > in any other JBI container as well (such as OpenESB or Petals).
> > >> >> > Wrt the versioning, given the point above, I'm not sure how to
> > >> >> > handle that.  I don't think restarting to 1.0 is a good idea, as
> > >> >> > these parts are already released, so it would be very confusing
> > >> >> > imho.   That said, we could either go with 3.x or 4.x.
> > >> >> > I'm not sure about not giving numbers at all for components.
>  Bruce
> > >> >> > suggested some time ago to use code names for our "big releases",
> > >> >> > which would be the opposite to what you suggest ...
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Kristian Köhler
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> >> >> Hi
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> more a general point (might be discussed already with 'the
> > >> >> >> component split'):
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> It's more about version numbers not the release process...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> I'm not sure if this ends up in a version clutter because it's
> not
> > >>
> > >> clear
> > >>
> > >> >> >> which version of (for example) ServiceMix works with which
> version
> > >> >> >> of servicemix-shared. For example I would expect that
> > >> >> >> servicemix-shared version
> > >> >> >> 4 works with ServiceMix 4 and servicemix-shared version 3 works
> > >> >> >> with ServiceMix 3. But here servicemix-shared version 4 works
> with
> > >> >> >> SM3 and SM4.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> So if we release servicemix-common, servicemix-shared,
> components,
> > >> >> >> features
> > >> >> >> all in version 4 - could I use them all in SM3? ;-)
> > >> >> >> I think the 'similar looking' version numbers are confusing...
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Just an idea: Why not release all "smaller" parts
> > >> >> >> (servicemix-common, servicemix-shared, components, features)
> with
> > >> >> >> different version
> > >>
> > >> numbers
> > >>
> > >> >> >> (Something like Ubuntu or http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/7/14/491)
> and
> > >>
> > >> only
> > >>
> > >> >> >> release the 'big assemblies' with major version numbers
> > >> >> >> (ServiceMix
> > >>
> > >> 4,
> > >>
> > >> >> >> ServiceMix 3)?
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Sorry but this was the first thing that came into my mind... ;-)
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Kristian
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> 2008/7/21 Freeman Fang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >> >> >>> Hi Guillaume,
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> I'd like to release ServiceMix  3.2.2 once Camel 1.4 get
> > >> >> >>> released.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Regards
> > >> >> >>> Freeman
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Guillaume Nodet wrote:
> > >> >> >>>> I'd like to start releasing a few things, mainly:
> > >> >> >>>>  * Kernel 1.0.0
> > >> >> >>>>  * Specs 1.0.1
> > >> >> >>>>  * servicemix-common / servicemix-shared
> > >> >> >>>>  * start releasing some of the components (there are some of
> > >> >> >>>> thoses that need a bit more work for OSGi, i'll keep the list
> > >> >> >>>> posted)
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> Camel 1.4 is nearly out, so we can also think about releasing
> > >> >> >>>> ServiceMix 3.2.2 (finally).  Any volunteer for this one or the
> > >>
> > >> above ?
> > >>
> > >> >> >> --
> > >> >> >> GASwerk - Geronimo Application Server Assemblies
> > >> >> >> http://gaswerk.sourceforge.net
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > --
> > >> >> > Cheers,
> > >> >> > Guillaume Nodet
> > >> >> > ------------------------
> > >> >> > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> > >> >>
> > >> >> -----
> > >> >> ---
> > >> >> Gert Vanthienen
> > >> >> http://www.anova.be
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> View this message in context:
> > >>
> > >>
> http://www.nabble.com/-DISCUSS--Start-releasing-a-few-things-tp18563641p
> > >>18569130.html
> > >>
> > >> >> Sent from the ServiceMix - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > --
> > >> > GASwerk - Geronimo Application Server Assemblies
> > >> > http://gaswerk.sourceforge.net
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Cheers,
> > >> Guillaume Nodet
> > >> ------------------------
> > >> Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > > --
> > > --
> > > GASwerk - Geronimo Application Server Assemblies
> > > http://gaswerk.sourceforge.net
>
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