Hi Guillaume, If I have right understood, the ClusterRegistration in the registry provides a filter. After that, the user needs to define if the endpoint is "member" of the cluster or not. It means that, in a cluster, we can have : - standalone endpoints (dealing only with the local SMX instance) - clustered endpoints (dealing with all SMX cluster members). Does it mean that this kind of endpoints are federate in all cluster members (the endpoint is present in all cluster member) ?
If I compare with application servers clustering (with the EJBs session replication, entity turns, etc), when you setup the application server in cluster mode, your application works in cluster mode (you can't choose if it's cluster compliant or not). Using JBoss Groups, you can register applications in cluster or not. Maybe it can be interesting to let the user to choose which endpoints is cluster one or not with something like, defining a ClusterRegistration service that store the cluster endpoints set. Like this, we can manage OSGi and JBI packaging, implicit cluster and manual cluster. But the user needs to define clustered endpoint. It's only a quick think about SMX cluster. The topic is very interesting. Regards JB On Mon 09/02/09 09:28, "Guillaume Nodet" [email protected] wrote: > I've commited my ongoing work about servicemix 4 clustering at > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/servicemix/smx4/nmr/trunk/jbi/ > cluster/ It's not in the build yet and I committed it for discussion purpose. > > This work has two goals: > * provide some persistence in the JBI layer > * provide some transparent remoting between JBI endpoints > > The way I've began implementing that is to use an ExchangeListener in > the NMR to re-route exchanges to a cluster endpoint (I guess it should > be renamed to something like "cluster engine" to avoid being confused > with "clustered endpoints"). > > The org.apache.servicemix.cluster.requestor package dervies from the > spring message listener container and implements a jms layer which is > able to provide request / response in an asynchronous way. > > I've experimented different things, and the one i've been focusing > lately is to use a single JMS queue and selectors. Let me explain a bit. > The JMS flow in servicemix 3 was using lots of different destinations > (one per container + one per endpoint + one per service qname + one > per interface qname). The problem with such a design is that a jms > consumer can easily consume only from one destination (unless we use some > specific activemq features). Another problem is that if not using activemq, > setting up lots of JMS destinations can be really tedious. The use of > a single destination leads to fewer consumers, at the expense of using > jms selectors. Previsouly, i've tried to use two queues (one for > requests and another one for responses) but there's no real benefits in doing > this imho. > > The other thing i've been focusing on is to make sure that processing > a jms message does not block a thread, and yet be able to use jms or xa > transactions. This is not so easy. For example the spring jms > listener containers do use a thread for consuming the jms message and process > it, expecting the processing to happen synchronously. However, in > servicemix synchronous processing is a bad idea, as if it involves sending an > http request and waiting for a response, this means blocking a thread for > nothing. For scalability, we need to not block threads if possible. But spring > message listener containers only support synchronous processing, so > I've hacked two new containers, one being JMS compliant, and another one > specific to ActiveMQ which is much more performant. It uses a > MessageAvailableListener to be notified when consumers have messages to be processed instead of > wasting threads to poll actively for messages. > Anyway, both containers can support client ack, jms local transactions > or xa transactions in asynchronous mode. > > I haven't really worked on how to register such endpoints (from the > user point of > view). At the moment, we need to register a ClusterRegistration in the > OSGi registry. Such registrations contains a filter that will be used to > decide if a > new active / consumer exchange should be re-routed to the cluster engine or > not. The most simple filter would be a filter that checks the source endpoint > and will thus cluster all exchanges outgoing from a given endpoint. > As for how to register such objects, one way would be to put that on > the endpoint > exporter that is used in smx4 to register jbi endpoints with the OSGi > packaging, but this would not work with JBI packaging (such registrations would have > to be deployed in a separate osgi bundle). I was also thinking about adding a > simple boolean property on all endpoints, something like clustered="true". > > Sorry for the long rant, but I should have sent this email way earlier > ... Feedback welcome. > > > > -- > Cheers, > Guillaume Nodet > ------------------------ > Blog: http://gnodet.blogspot.com/ ------------------------ > Open Source SOA > http://fusesource.com > >
