Guillaume,

Bundles and specs are usually released separately these days and they have
a completely different release cycle than the container, so I would keep
those as they are today.

I was mainly thinking about Features itself and the things we usually
release together with that (Utils, Components, NMR, Archetypes).  If we
could strip that down to a single maven build for the container itself and
drop the JBI/NMR bits, we should be able to do those container builds more
quickly and easily, making it easier to stay up-to-date with all other
dependency versions (Karaf, Camel, CXF, ...)


Regards,

Gert Vanthienen


On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Guillaume Nodet <[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you also talking about moving back everything in a single subproject ?
> So that the release would only consist in a single maven release ?
> If so, I'm not sure we can easily do that for bundles (which are used by
> downstream projects), and also the specs (which are used by Karaf).
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Gert Vanthienen
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> > L.S.,
> >
> >
> > About a year and a half ago, we had some discussions on the mailing list
> > about a plan for Apache ServiceMix 5.0 and had some initial commits to
> > build the additional services and functionality.  Since then however,
> none
> > of us have actually had the time to work on that code or move things
> > forward.
> >
> > In the meanwhile, we are also struggling constantly to get our releases
> > done in timely fashion.  The latest 4.5.0 release took almost 9 months
> > since the first mention of it on the dev@ list.  Doing a ServiceMix
> > release
> > now is quite a task: it usually involves doing releases in 5 or 6
> > subprojects.
> >
> > I would like to propose a new plan for Apache ServiceMix 5.0.  Instead of
> > doing a lot of new development, how about we start with the current 4.x
> > features codebase and remove everything that's related to JBI and the
> NMR.
> >  That will give us a nice and simple integration container build (based
> on
> > Karaf, Camel, CXF, ActiveMQ, ...) and everything is living in a single
> > project that's quick and easy to release.
> >
> > If we start doing this now, we could get a build out with Karaf 2.3.0,
> > ActiveMQ 5.8.0, Camel 2.11.0 (which will bring in Scala 2.10 and opens up
> > the possibility to include the Akka OSGi examples I built a few months
> ago)
> > pretty soon after those versions are available.   With only one project
> to
> > maintain the versions of all those dependencies, we should be able to
> > follow up more regularly as our sibling projects do (new) fix releases as
> > well.
> >
> > We don't have to throw away the existing ServiceMix 5.0 code by the way,
> we
> > can always move that into a separate branch and then cherry-pick the
> useful
> > bits afterwards, but I think our first goal now should be to get
> ourselves
> > in a position that we can actually build and release stuff more easily
> > again.
> >
> >
> > Wdyt?
> >
> > Gert Vanthienen
> >
>
>
>
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