L.S.,

256 MB sounds like a fair value to me as well.  Once it's added to
Karaf, we probably won't have to do anything in ServiceMix once we can
pick up a new version, so that sounds even better ;)  I'll raise the
JIRA for ServiceMix 5 anyway so we can at least keep track of it.

Also, good to hear about the new Metaspace memory for Java 8.  I do
wonder how this will affect production systems:  most people will
probably want to leave the default setting to "unbounded", but I can
imagine some users will want to limit the amount of metaspace that can
be used so we might have to do the opposite for Java 8 and provide a
new environment variable in the Karaf scripts to limit this again.


Regards,

Gert Vanthienen


On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 9:45 PM, Achim Nierbeck <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm fine with it, though starting with Java 7 the PermSpace is removed from
> the JVM (due to merge of JRockit and HotSpot implementation) So I'm not
> sure how long this "issue" will still be present :)
> Also take a look at [1]
>
> regards, Achim
>
> [1] -
> http://javaeesupportpatterns.blogspot.de/2011/10/java-7-features-permgen-removal.html
>
>
> 2013/4/4 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]>
>
>> On Karaf, we noticed an increase of the Perm when using a lot of bundles
>> refresh.
>>
>> Agree with Freeman, it makes sense to increase in Karaf as well.
>>
>> Maybe 256m is a fair value. WDYT ?
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 04/04/2013 08:09 AM, Freeman Fang wrote:
>>
>>> +1 to give a bigger default size, and I think we even need change it on
>>> Karaf side also
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>>> On 2013-4-4, at 下午1:51, Claus Ibsen wrote:
>>>
>>>  Hi
>>>>
>>>> Isn't even 128MB a low value today?
>>>> Shouldn't we raise it to a higher value?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Gert Vanthienen
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> L.S.,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Today, I ran into two occasions where the default PermGen memory
>>>>> configuration was insufficient, first while installing the new
>>>>> camel-drools demo that was created today and secondly when installing
>>>>> a moderately large web project for testing purposes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Would it make sense to increase the PermGen size to 128 MB out of the
>>>>> box?  I can imagine if I bump into this a few times in a row, some of
>>>>> our users are bound to see the same thing happening too.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gert Vanthienen
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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