Hi Dan,

thanks for the update.

It makes sense to review the content of the full assembly and especially the overlap between different projects.

I will take a look on that during this week.

Regards
JB

On 07/01/2013 07:45 PM, Daniel Kulp wrote:

I did a bit of cleanup in just the smx4-features  XML and Camel 2.10.x branch and was 
able to shave off about 25MB from the assembly.  There is certainly more to go.   We now 
have about 53MB of "duplicate" jars  (which is down from over 100MB).   I've 
attached the list below.  A bunch of them we certainly need to have the various versions 
(like ehcache due to incompatible changes between 2.5.1 and 2.5.2).   Others are pulled 
in from jclouds or activemq or similar and thus would e hard to resolve.   Some would 
require better support from Karaf to really resolve (like the duplicate Spring jars) or 
an enhancement to the plugin would be great (like exclude the CXF activemq stuff as the 
activemq pom can supply a workable version).

The bottom bunch are things that really should be looked at more in depth.  A 
couple can be fixed by updating the versions in the smx-nmr features.xml (which 
I don't have checked out on my computer right now).  Others are likely fixable 
by flipping from the smx bundled versions of commons-* to the actual commons-* 
versions.   Saxon is something that needs a bit more testing.   I've had some 
bad luck updating that in OSGi before.

Anyway, here's a starting point for some work.  :-)    In anycase the tar.gz is 
now down below 290M.   Still huge though.

Dan



1424    ./com/hazelcast/hazelcast/1.9.4/hazelcast-1.9.4.jar
1660    ./com/hazelcast/hazelcast/2.0.2/hazelcast-2.0.2.jar
60      ./commons-codec/commons-codec/1.4/commons-codec-1.4.jar
228     ./commons-codec/commons-codec/1.6/commons-codec-1.6.jar
276     ./commons-lang/commons-lang/2.5/commons-lang-2.5.jar
280     ./commons-lang/commons-lang/2.6/commons-lang-2.6.jar
208     ./commons-net/commons-net/2.2/commons-net-2.2.jar
268     ./commons-net/commons-net/3.1/commons-net-3.1.jar
96      ./commons-pool/commons-pool/1.5.4/commons-pool-1.5.4.jar
112     ./commons-pool/commons-pool/1.6/commons-pool-1.6.jar
484     ./javax/mail/mail/1.4.4/mail-1.4.4.jar
500     ./javax/mail/mail/1.4.5/mail-1.4.5.jar
532     ./joda-time/joda-time/1.6.2/joda-time-1.6.2.jar
560     ./joda-time/joda-time/2.1/joda-time-2.1.jar
116     ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-console/5.4.2/activemq-console-5.4.2.jar
124     ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-console/5.7.0/activemq-console-5.7.0.jar
3244    ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-core/5.4.2/activemq-core-5.4.2.jar
3872    ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-core/5.7.0/activemq-core-5.7.0.jar
36      ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-pool/5.4.2/activemq-pool-5.4.2.jar
48      ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-pool/5.7.0/activemq-pool-5.7.0.jar
84      ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-ra/5.4.2/activemq-ra-5.4.2.jar
88      ./org/apache/activemq/activemq-ra/5.7.0/activemq-ra-5.7.0.jar
152     ./org/apache/activemq/kahadb/5.4.2/kahadb-5.4.2.jar
184     ./org/apache/activemq/kahadb/5.7.0/kahadb-5.7.0.jar
160     
./org/apache/aries/transaction/org.apache.aries.transaction.manager/0.2-incubating/org.apache.aries.transaction.manager-0.2-incubating.jar
172     
./org/apache/aries/transaction/org.apache.aries.transaction.manager/0.3/org.apache.aries.transaction.manager-0.3.jar
172     
./org/apache/aries/transaction/org.apache.aries.transaction.manager/0.3.1/org.apache.aries.transaction.manager-0.3.1.jar
488     
./org/apache/httpcomponents/httpclient-osgi/4.1.1/httpclient-osgi-4.1.1.jar
528     
./org/apache/httpcomponents/httpclient-osgi/4.1.3/httpclient-osgi-4.1.3.jar
796     
./org/apache/httpcomponents/httpclient-osgi/4.2.1/httpclient-osgi-4.2.1.jar
336     ./org/apache/httpcomponents/httpcore-osgi/4.1/httpcore-osgi-4.1.jar
376     ./org/apache/httpcomponents/httpcore-osgi/4.1.4/httpcore-osgi-4.1.4.jar
504     ./org/apache/httpcomponents/httpcore-osgi/4.2.1/httpcore-osgi-4.2.1.jar
284     
./org/apache/jackrabbit/jackrabbit-jcr-commons/2.2.12/jackrabbit-jcr-commons-2.2.12.jar
344     
./org/apache/jackrabbit/jackrabbit-jcr-commons/2.5.2/jackrabbit-jcr-commons-2.5.2.jar
632     ./org/apache/mina/mina-core/2.0.5/mina-core-2.0.5.jar
632     ./org/apache/mina/mina-core/2.0.7/mina-core-2.0.7.jar
444     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.antlr/2.7.7_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.antlr-2.7.7_5.jar
560     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.antlr/3.0.1_6/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.antlr-3.0.1_6.jar
112     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.antlr-runtime/3.0.1_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.antlr-runtime-3.0.1_2.jar
16      
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.aopalliance/1.0_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.aopalliance-1.0_5.jar
20      
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.aopalliance/1.0_6/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.aopalliance-1.0_6.jar
184     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.asm/2.2.3_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.asm-2.2.3_5.jar
232     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.asm/3.3.1_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.asm-3.3.1_1.jar
308     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-httpclient/3.1_6/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-httpclient-3.1_6.jar
312     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-httpclient/3.1_7/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-httpclient-3.1_7.jar
316     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.dom4j/1.6.1_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.dom4j-1.6.1_2.jar
320     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.dom4j/1.6.1_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.dom4j-1.6.1_5.jar
1272    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ehcache/2.5.1_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ehcache-2.5.1_1.jar
1284    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ehcache/2.5.2_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ehcache-2.5.2_1.jar
136     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jasypt/1.6_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jasypt-1.6_1.jar
128     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jasypt/1.9.0_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jasypt-1.9.0_1.jar
192     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsch/0.1.44_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsch-0.1.44_2.jar
232     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsch/0.1.48_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsch-0.1.48_1.jar
308     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsmpp/2.1.0_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsmpp-2.1.0_2.jar
312     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsmpp/2.1.0_4/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.jsmpp-2.1.0_4.jar
748     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.netty/3.2.3.Final_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.netty-3.2.3.Final_2.jar
764     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.netty/3.2.7.Final_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.netty-3.2.7.Final_1.jar
72      
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.oro/2.0.8_3/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.oro-2.0.8_3.jar
76      
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.oro/2.0.8_6/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.oro-2.0.8_6.jar
332     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.protobuf-java/2.3.0_3/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.protobuf-java-2.3.0_3.jar
452     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.protobuf-java/2.4.1_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.protobuf-java-2.4.1_1.jar
396     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.snmp4j/1.10.1_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.snmp4j-1.10.1_1.jar
284     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.snmp4j/1.8.1_4/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.snmp4j-1.8.1_4.jar
452     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.velocity/1.7_4/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.velocity-1.7_4.jar
448     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.velocity/1.7_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.velocity-1.7_5.jar
84      
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.werken-xpath/0.9.4_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.werken-xpath-0.9.4_5.jar
2692    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xmlbeans/2.5.0_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xmlbeans-2.5.0_2.jar
2696    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xmlbeans/2.6.0_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xmlbeans-2.6.0_2.jar
128     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xpp3/1.1.4c_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xpp3-1.1.4c_5.jar
128     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xpp3/1.1.4c_6/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xpp3-1.1.4c_6.jar
416     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xstream/1.3_3/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xstream-1.3_3.jar
488     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xstream/1.4.2_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.xstream-1.4.2_2.jar
36      
./org/apache/servicemix/specs/org.apache.servicemix.specs.scripting-api-1.0/1.9.0/org.apache.servicemix.specs.scripting-api-1.0-1.9.0.jar
36      
./org/apache/servicemix/specs/org.apache.servicemix.specs.scripting-api-1.0/2.2.0/org.apache.servicemix.specs.scripting-api-1.0-2.2.0.jar
48      
./org/apache/servicemix/specs/org.apache.servicemix.specs.stax-api-1.0/1.9.0/org.apache.servicemix.specs.stax-api-1.0-1.9.0.jar
48      
./org/apache/servicemix/specs/org.apache.servicemix.specs.stax-api-1.0/2.2.0/org.apache.servicemix.specs.stax-api-1.0-2.2.0.jar
324     ./org/apache/sshd/sshd-core/0.6.0/sshd-core-0.6.0.jar
368     ./org/apache/sshd/sshd-core/0.8.0/sshd-core-0.8.0.jar
108     ./org/fusesource/hawtdispatch/hawtdispatch/1.11/hawtdispatch-1.11.jar
108     ./org/fusesource/hawtdispatch/hawtdispatch/1.12/hawtdispatch-1.12.jar
104     
./org/fusesource/hawtdispatch/hawtdispatch-transport/1.11/hawtdispatch-transport-1.11.jar
124     
./org/fusesource/hawtdispatch/hawtdispatch-transport/1.12/hawtdispatch-transport-1.12.jar
112     ./org/fusesource/mqtt-client/mqtt-client/1.3/mqtt-client-1.3.jar
112     ./org/fusesource/mqtt-client/mqtt-client/1.4/mqtt-client-1.4.jar
320     ./org/springframework/spring-aop/2.5.6.SEC03/spring-aop-2.5.6.SEC03.jar
316     
./org/springframework/spring-aop/3.0.7.RELEASE/spring-aop-3.0.7.RELEASE.jar
480     
./org/springframework/spring-beans/2.5.6.SEC03/spring-beans-2.5.6.SEC03.jar
544     
./org/springframework/spring-beans/3.0.7.RELEASE/spring-beans-3.0.7.RELEASE.jar
468     
./org/springframework/spring-context/2.5.6.SEC03/spring-context-2.5.6.SEC03.jar
656     
./org/springframework/spring-context/3.0.7.RELEASE/spring-context-3.0.7.RELEASE.jar
96      
./org/springframework/spring-context-support/2.5.6.SEC03/spring-context-support-2.5.6.SEC03.jar
100     
./org/springframework/spring-context-support/3.0.7.RELEASE/spring-context-support-3.0.7.RELEASE.jar
280     
./org/springframework/spring-core/2.5.6.SEC03/spring-core-2.5.6.SEC03.jar
376     
./org/springframework/spring-core/3.0.7.RELEASE/spring-core-3.0.7.RELEASE.jar
192     ./org/springframework/spring-web/2.5.6.SEC03/spring-web-2.5.6.SEC03.jar
392     
./org/springframework/spring-web/3.0.7.RELEASE/spring-web-3.0.7.RELEASE.jar
396     
./org/springframework/spring-webmvc/2.5.6.SEC03/spring-webmvc-2.5.6.SEC03.jar
412     
./org/springframework/spring-webmvc/3.0.7.RELEASE/spring-webmvc-3.0.7.RELEASE.jar

156     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.wsdl4j/1.6.2_3/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.wsdl4j-1.6.2_3.jar
156     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.wsdl4j/1.6.2_6/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.wsdl4j-1.6.2_6.jar
1284    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ant/1.7.0_4/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ant-1.7.0_4.jar
1288    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ant/1.7.0_6/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.ant-1.7.0_6.jar
248     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-beanutils/1.8.3_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-beanutils-1.8.3_1.jar
572     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-collections/3.2.1_1/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-collections-3.2.1_1.jar
360     
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-vfs/1.0_5/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.commons-vfs-1.0_5.jar
2688    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saxon/9.3.0.11_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saxon-9.3.0.11_2.jar
2808    
./org/apache/servicemix/bundles/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saxon/9.4.0.1_2/org.apache.servicemix.bundles.saxon-9.4.0.1_2.jar
53704   total



On Jun 27, 2013, at 4:57 PM, Gert Vanthienen <[email protected]> wrote:

L.S.,


On the Apache ServiceMix 4.5.2 vote thread, Dan brought up the fact
that there now is a 100 MB upload limit to the dist repository.  Our
-full assembly is definitely larger than this and we even make things
a bit worse by adding multiple versions of some bundles into the
assembly.  This usually happens when multiple versions of the same
bundle are being used across projects.

The obvious solution would be to check those versions across projects
and try to get them aligned as good as we can, but this will be a
never-ending task and very hard to keep up in the long run, so I was
wondering if there was anything else we could do to make this a bit
easier or more automated.

For Apache ServiceMix 5.0.0, we could also consider the option of only
shipping a ZIP file.  I think it should be possible to create an
archive that works on both Windows and other operating systems.  If we
could, that would significantly reduce our footprint on Apache's
infrastructure, though it would still keep us way above the 100 MB
limit if we keep on shipping the -full assembly.

Personally, I would prefer to keep that assembly around - the
ease/speed of installation of all the extra features outweighs the
cost of the extra disk space used on a server in my mind.  But that's
just my personal opinion and we can always consider the option of
dropping the -full assembly again if it proves too big of an issue for
infra@


Regards,

Gert


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