L.S., That sounds like a good plan to me. There's quite a bit of overlap between the currently active committers/PMC members on the ServiceMix project and the Karaf community anyway.
Regards, Gert Vanthienen On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 6:55 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Krsysztof, > > I guess by community you mean the current committers and PMC members. > > What I propose (and we did that already for other Apache projects which > moved to attic) is a "call to Karaf". Basically, we will ask to any > committer and PMC member if they want to "follow" the project at Karaf > and call for a vote at Karaf. > > I think it's the best way for two reasons: > 1. it gives a chance to "active" ServiceMix committers/PMC members to > still be involved at Karaf > 2. it will allow to "clean" the list of committers/PMC members which > currently contains lot of inactive people. > > Thoughts ? > > Regards > JB > > On 28/01/2020 21:18, Krzysztof Sobkowiak wrote: > > Hi > > > > I was thinking about this a long time last months, but had not too much > > courage to say this, because > > I've spent a lot of time to resurect the ServiceMix 5 and work on the > > further releases. But actually > > I have not too much time and power to spend so much time as before to work > > on the new releases. So, > > it's time to clear the status of ServiceMix. Thanks JB for starting of the > > theme. > > > > As we cannot guarantee to provide new regular releases, I second your > > opinion not to provide the > > next releases and move ServiceMix project to attic. > > > > I propose to > > - move the Bundles and Specs to Karaf as subprojects > > - provide Integration features in Karaf and Karaf Integration distribution > > as proposed by JB > > - provide integration documentation in Karaf + migration guide > > - contribute the Activiti features to Activiti project (can be part of > > Integration features in Karaf > > at the beginning) > > - move the ServiceMix project to attic > > > > The open question: what about the active community members? Would they be > > merged to Karaf community > > too? > > > > > > Best regards > > Krzysztof > > > > On Tue, 2020-01-28 at 15:30 +0100, Jean-Baptiste Onofré wrote: > >> Hi Andrea, > >> > >> I fully agree with you. > >> > >> My proposal is basically: > >> > >> 1. Move SMX bundles and SMX specs as Karaf subproject > >> 2. Create Karaf Integration distribution at Karaf (as we have standard > >> and minimal distributions already) > >> 3. Provide a migration guide for SMX users > >> 4. Move ServiceMix project to attic > >> > >> Regards > >> JB > >> > >> On 28/01/2020 15:27, Andrea Cosentino wrote: > >>> +1 on each point. > >>> I wouldn't do an 8.0.0 release, because we can't guarantee patch > >>> releases.. > >>> So I would go with attic and clearly states to use karaf > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Inviato da Yahoo Mail su Android > >>> > >>> Il mar, 28 gen, 2020 alle 15:01, Jean-Baptiste > >>> Onofré<[email protected]> ha scritto: Hi guys, > >>> > >>> If the ServiceMix project is fairly active for SMX Bundles and Specs, we > >>> clearly have a "slow pace" on distribution releases. > >>> > >>> Here, we have two approaches possible: > >>> > >>> 1. We clearly state on website and codebase that users should better use > >>> Karaf and create their own custom distribution if needed. > >>> 2. We begin a regular pace in distribution release. > >>> > >>> I think 1 makes more sense and it's worth to be mentioned in the SMX > >>> distribution. > >>> > >>> Regarding 2, I would like to propose a ServiceMix 8.0.0 with: > >>> - Update to Karaf 4.2.x > >>> - Update to Camel 3.0.1 > >>> - Update on Activity > >>> - Cleanup and improved SMX features > >>> - Add itests in smx for coverage > >>> > >>> Another more "important" decision would be to retire ServiceMix to attic > >>> and move SMX Bundles and Specs as Karaf subprojects (as we have Karaf > >>> Decanter, Cave, Cellar, ...). > >>> > >>> I think it's fair to discuss about that as we don't see lot of activity > >>> on ServiceMix distribution/releases. > >>> > >>> Thoughts ? > >>> > >>> Regards > >>> JB > >>> > > > > > > -- > Jean-Baptiste Onofré > [email protected] > http://blog.nanthrax.net > Talend - http://www.talend.com
