On 12/29/06, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>From: "Rahul Akolkar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> On 12/29/06, Gary VanMatre wrote:
> > >From: "Rahul Akolkar"
> > >
> > > On 12/29/06, Gary VanMatre wrote:
> > > > >From: "Rahul Akolkar"
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm done with changes to the release notes for now (commits@
list
> > > > > seems to have a lag right now). Please jump in and improve them.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have left one FIXME for any notable Clay changes that we may
want to
> > > > > list as was done for 1.0.3 (Gary?), but anything else worth
mentioning
> > > > > should go in section 3 and 4 as well. TIA.
> > > > >
> >
> >
> > I'd like to mentions SHALE-324 in there but it doesn't pertain to the
release
> artifacts.
> > We haven't talked about how or if we are going to release the tools. I
should
> have
> > spoken up earlier. What do you think?
> >
>
>
> I think we should talk about tools so its clear what the roadmap is.
> They currently sit outside framework -- is that a separate unit of
> release, or to be included in framework releases etc.
>
> Also, I think its too last minute for including anything new at all in
> framework v1.0.4. We're ready, pending release notes tweaks and the
> like. However, thats just one opinion, if enough of us think this
> should be part of v1.0.4, we should get things in place soon (in a day
> or two would be my preference).
>
>

Let's talk about a tools release down the road.  I don't want anything to
get in the way of this becoming a GA release.



+1 ... there is lots of interesting space to talk about tools and what we
want to do with them.  In addition to the generator stuff, I'd like to see
us provide a suite of static analysis tools for verifying the configuration
of a Shale based webapp, or even just a JSF based one (which is where TLD
analyzers like the one Dennis is offering might fit really nicely).

Craig



> >
> > > Yeah, those things can do more damage than shutting off these days
...
> >
> >
> > That's what I'm afraid of. I can cause a power off by just running a
bios
> check.
> > I sure hope they take good care of her.
> >
>
>
> Good luck with that Gary, hope she comes out well.
>
> -Rahul

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