That's a very good idea..
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:27 AM
> To: dev@shale.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Merging Shale into MyFaces
>
> I use the Testing framework. So does Tomahawk.
>
> I suggest creating a release based on the latest snapshot for Shale
> before it goes dormant or is moved to MyFaces. That way projects that
> are using snapshots will have a release.
>
> Paul Spencer
>
>
>
> Mario Ivankovits wrote:
> > Hi!
> >> I sent out an e-mail to the Shale mailing list a week or so ago
> about the
> >> possibility of merging Shale with MyFaces. Development of Shale has
> >> become
> >> somewhat stale, and I'd rather see MyFaces pickup the pieces than
> have
> >> the
> >> code base atrophy The overwhelming consensus for the Shale list is
> "yes"
> >> (and Craig is no exception). What does the MyFaces PMC think?
> >>
> > I am +1.
> >
> > I think we just have to define which modules we would like to take
> over:
> > (BTW, this list is not to offend anyone, if this might happen, then
> > sorry in advance - it might be just due to not sensitively enough
> > choosen english wording.)
> >
> >
> > * Application Controller
> > Don't know. I thought action oriented frameworks are outdated,
> though,
> > Seam seems to introduce this paradigm again too.
> >
> > * Clay
> > Don't know. I am happy that we (I) moved away from html to
> components.
> >
> > * Core Library
> > Might be a must have
> >
> > * Dialog Manager
> > * Dialog Manager (Basic Implementation)
> > * Dialog Manager (SCXML Implementation)
> > The Dialog Manager might be a next step for MyFaces Orchestra.
> Anyway, I
> > hope that one of the original developers is still there to help out
> with
> > things.
> >
> > * Remoting
> > Unsure, as most of this can be done with PPR too.
> >
> > * Spring Integration
> > Unsure, I didn't get whats the advantage to the intregration with
> Spring
> >
> > * Test Framework
> > Must have I think
> >
> > * Tiger Extensions
> > Interesting, however, I'd like to tell everyone to use Spring as MB
> > facility. And then Spring needs to provide such annotations (which
> are
> > already existent I think)
> >
> > * Tiles Integration
> > See Clay.
> >
> > * Validator Support
> > A generic client/server validation library for JSF would be REALLY
> nice.
> > Just, I don't like the idea just having a single component for this
> > (val:commonsValidator), at least, this one needs to be extended.
> >
> > * View Controller
> > This needs to be reviewed and merged with the Orchestra one if
> possible
> >
> >
> > I am not going to vote an any of these components yet, first, I'd
> like
> > to see a discussion about them.
> > The reason is simple, even MyFaces has some "man/women power"
> problems
> > currently I think. If no one is willing to pick up one of these
> modules
> > they are dead in MyFaces land too.
> > Point is, that too many dormand modules in MyFaces might harm the
> > MyFaces community. We might create a dormand section where we move
> those
> > modules then to express that we are waiting for someone with some
> urge
> > to pick them up again.
> >
> > Ciao,
> > Mario
> >
> >
