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Best,
Craig


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Craig Russell <[email protected]>
> Subject: Incubator cookbook: Podling Releases update
> Date: November 22, 2019 at 12:47:13 PM PST
> To: Incubator <[email protected]>
> 
> I believe that the current cookbook recommendations need an update. [1]
> 
> 1. "Binding" should always refer to IPMC members' votes. This is a source of 
> confusion for many podling communities.
> 2. Votes on the dev list should automatically carry over to the general list. 
> Assuming that there is no change to the artifacts, the only reason for the 
> dev vote not to carry over is that the voter changed their mind, which is an 
> exception that should be documented in the general thread.
> 3. All votes count. All input is valuable. All votes whether on dev or 
> incubator general should be tallied.
> 4. The discussion needs to include the recent DISCLAIMER-WIP changes to 
> release protocol.
> 
> Here is my proposed update:
> 
> Podling Releases
> A podling is expected to make several software releases during incubation, 
> that progress toward being fully conformant with the ASF Release Policy 
> http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html . A fully conformant release 
> is expected as a condition of graduation. 
> 
> Podling releases must include the word "incubating" in any release file names 
> and must include a DISCLAIMER or DISCLAIMER-WIP 
> https://incubator.apache.org/guides/releasemanagement.html#choice_of_disclaimers
> to avoid any confusion as to the project’s status. As podlings are not yet 
> "real" ASF projects, it is important to set expectations right.
> 
> Also, voting on podling releases happens in two phases:
> 
> First, the podling votes on the release on their dev mailing list. The main 
> goal of this vote is for the podling community to practice and learn voting 
> on releases. The vote is successful if there are at least three +1 votes from 
> PPMC members, and more +1 votes from PPMC members than -1 votes from PPMC 
> members.
> 
> Then, if that first vote is successful, an Incubator PMC vote is held on the 
> incubator general mailing list. This is required to make the vote an Act of 
> the Foundation, as is required for all ASF releases. When the release manager 
> calls for a vote on the general list, the results of the dev list vote are 
> summarized in the vote message.
> 
> All votes cast during the dev vote are carried over to the incubator general 
> vote. In particular, IPMC Member votes including Mentor votes cast in the dev 
> vote are binding in the general vote. And votes can be changed during the 
> general vote; the last vote cast by any voter is considered definitive.
> 
> At the conclusion of the vote, the results are announced to the general 
> incubator list. All votes from the dev list and general list are reported, 
> including the names and roles of the voters. The vote is successful if there 
> are at least three +1 votes from IPMC members, and more +1 votes from IPMC 
> members than -1 votes from IPMC members. 
> 
> Craig
> 
> Current incubator web page:
> [1] Podling Releases https://incubator.apache.org/cookbook/#podling_releases
> A podling is expected to make several software releases during incubation, 
> that gradually progress towards being fully conformant to the ASF Release 
> Policy.
> 
> In addition to following that policy, podling releases must include the word 
> "incubating" in any release file names and a DISCLAIMER (TODO: link) to avoid 
> any confusion as to the project’s status. As podlings are not "real" ASF 
> projects yet, it is important to set expectations right.
> 
> Also, voting on podling releases happens in two phases:
> 
> First, the podling votes on the release on their dev mailing list, with PPMC 
> members votes being "binding" and others being welcome to cast consultative 
> votes. The main goal of this vote is for the podling community to practice 
> and learn voting on releases.
> 
> Then, if that first vote is successful, an Incubator PMC vote is held on the 
> Incubator general mailing list. This is required to make the vote an Act of 
> the Foundation, as is required for all ASF releases.
> 
> Incubation mentors can optionally indicate that their votes in the first 
> phase can be carried on to the Incubator PMC vote. If three mentors have 
> voted this means the "three +1 votes" requirement is already fulfilled when 
> that second vote starts, which can speed up things.
> 
> Craig L Russell
> [email protected]
> 

Craig L Russell
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