zhangli...@apache.org <zhangli...@apache.org> 于2020年2月6日周四 上午2:00写道：
> Before I list all PPMCs and committers, we need to discuss the rule of how > to define `inactive` PPMC. > > The rules maybe: > > - Stop contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator. > If there are initial PPMCs staying in this way, I prefer to keep them as committer only. > - Rare contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator. We need to > define how to define `rare` too. > - Stop contribution during past period until now. The definition of > `during past period` maybe one year or half year. > I prefer at least one year(or equal 2, the whole incubator journey). If they still contribute anything from time to time, even talk at the Conference/Meetup in public, I hope we should trust them and keep them in final PMCs. > > If we decide follow these rules, we may let these PPMCs as committers. > > And do we need to discuss the rules to upgrade committers to PMC? > Any suggestions? > If no objection, we could just do it. Let's list this as a default in the resolution. Liang, after you have the stat, we could exclude `Stop contribution after ShardingSphere goto incubator` people from the final PMC list. > > ------------------ > > Liang Zhang (John) > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo > > > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午9:28写道： > > > Zonglei Dong <dongzong...@apache.org> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午9:19写道： > > > > > Hi Sheng, Liang, > > > > > > > > > As a committer, I want to take on greater responsibility, make more > > > contribution to ShardingSphere and take better practice for Apache Way > in > > > the future. > > > > > > > > > I understand some permissions only for PMC(or PPMC), e.g release new > > > version, Does there are any difference between PMC and committer? > > > > > > > For release, the committer is enough to go for a release, you just need > > PMC's vote to make release official. > > > > As an active PMC member should > > 1. Watching the project to follow the Apache way > > 2. Watching the branding issue, and work on the issues if find it(such as > > talk with other committer/contributor or 3rd party) > > 3. Find and promote new committer and PMC member > > For more, read https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html > > > > Also, in the Apache, we don't(also shouldn't) require people always > active. > > You could do these in part-time, or when you have time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > Best wishes. > > > > > > > > > Zonglei Dong > > > Apache ShardingSphere > > > > > > > > > On 02/5/2020 20:34，Sheng Wu<wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote： > > > I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to become PMC. > > > ALL in or not? > > > > > > Do you have the list? I think if some of them stop contributing to the > > > project after joining the incubator, I could exclude those. > > > > > > I nominate myself as project VP because my responsibility is monthly > > > report > > > to incubator, and I will in charge of to report to ASF in future. > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all current > > > committers as committers too. > > > > > > Personally, I prefer to move all committers to PMC. I trust they will > > > follow the more experienced PMC's suggestions and they wouldn't break > the > > > ASF rules intentionally. > > > > > > To All committer(but not PMC) > > > What do you think? I would like to support their own decision. > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > Juan Pan <panj...@apache.org> 于2020年2月5日周三 下午6:55写道： > > > > > > I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all current > > > committers as committers too. > > > > > > > > > I had the impression that inactive PPMC will be excluded to become PMC. > > > ALL in or not? > > > > > > > > > Juan Pan (Trista) > > > > > > Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating) > > > E-mail: panj...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 02/5/2020 17:38，zhangli...@apache.org<zhangli...@apache.org> wrote： > > > I want discuss about project VP, PMC and committer list after > graduation. > > > I would like to keep all PPMC members to PMC, and keep all current > > > committers as committers too. > > > The almost committers are new guys for ShardingSphere, they may need > more > > > experiences for open source community governance, we can vote > committers > > to > > > PMC one by one after graduation. > > > I nominate myself as project VP because my responsibility is monthly > > report > > > to incubator, and I will in charge of to report to ASF in future. > > > > > > Any suggestion? > > > ------------------ > > > > > > Liang Zhang (John) > > > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo > > > > > > > > > zhangli...@apache.org <zhangli...@apache.org> 于2020年1月20日周一 下午3:26写道： > > > > > > Got it, it means those threads are not block for our graduation, and > > > could be done anytime. > > > > > > Yes > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > Liang Zhang (John) > > > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo > > > > > > > > > Juan Pan <panj...@apache.org> 于2020年1月20日周一 上午10:14写道： > > > > > > Got it, it means those threads are not block for our graduation, and > > > could be done anytime. > > > > > > > > > Juan Pan (Trista) > > > > > > Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating) > > > E-mail: panj...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 01/19/2020 10:37，Sheng Wu<wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote： > > > As far as those docs and examples already in the Apache repos, I think > > > those are irrelavent. > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > Juan Pan <panj...@apache.org> 于2020年1月19日周日 上午10:30写道： > > > > > > +1 Agreeing to put graduation into our upcoming agenda. BTW, do you > think > > > we need finish the work discussed in other thread, like moving doc and > > > example repos to ShardingSphere repo? > > > > > > > > > Juan Pan (Trista) > > > > > > Senior DBA & PPMC of Apache ShardingSphere(Incubating) > > > E-mail: panj...@apache.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 01/17/2020 23:39，zhangli...@apache.org<zhangli...@apache.org> > wrote： > > > I list remain issues here: > > > > > > 1. Remove author information in java code, copyright should belong to > > ASF. > > > 2. Some remain codes[1] still using the old package name > > > `io.shardingsphere`, we plan to rename them as `io.opensharding`. > > > <https://github.com/OpenSharding>3. Let the major contributors to sign > > > ICLA > > > if they haven't singed yet. > > > > > > Please complement the list if I missing anything. > > > > > > [1] https://github.com/OpenSharding > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > Liang Zhang (John) > > > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> 于2020年1月17日周五 下午6:01写道： > > > > > > From my perspective, we should. Like I said in another thread. > > > I think we should be ready to consider and filter whether we have left > > any > > > issue before graduation. > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > zhangli...@apache.org <zhangli...@apache.org> 于2020年1月17日周五 下午3:10写道： > > > > > > Hello community, > > > > > > > > > I'd like to talk about graduation as TLP for Apache > > > ShardingSphere(Incubator). > > > > > > > > > We were open source at 16th Jan 2016, and entered into ASF incubator in > > > 10th Nov 2018. During the past period in incubator, our community grow > up > > > quickly. > > > > > > > > > I summarize some data below: > > > > > > > > > - There are 1301 emails sent by 159 people in dev mailing-list excepted > > > GitBox forwarded; > > > > > > - 2539 Issues created during ASF incubating, 2468 Issues resolved > during > > > ASF incubating; > > > > > > - 1073 PRs created during ASF incubating, 918 PRs merged during ASF > > > incubating; > > > > > > - There are 89 contributors for now; > > > > > > - There are 4 versions released successfully conformant to Apache > release > > > policy by 3 release managers; > > > > > > - There are 2 new PPMCs and 8 new committers were invited to join the > > > community. > > > > > > > > > We had already finished the Podling Maturity Assessment for > > > ShardingSphere[1], the 34 items are all passed. > > > > > > > > > We had resolved all branding issues which include Logo, GitHub repo, > > > document, website and DockerHub image. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we talk about when will start to consider about graduate? > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-shardingsphere/blob/dev/MATURITY.md > > > > > > > > > ------------------ > > > > > > > > > Liang Zhang (John) > > > > > > Apache ShardingSphere & Dubbo > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
