Could I write a tiny how-to in the shindig official wiki?

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On 15/12/2010, at 17:46, John Hjelmstad <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Maxwell - that's my take as well. I don't want to introduce too much
> crosstalk, but in my experience defining the desired end product is most of
> the challenge. I'm looking forward to reading about your experience.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:43 AM, Maxwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I think he wants to create a web app and use shindig as dependence, and
>> include container features in app.
>> 
>> I am doing this right now, it's not so easy, I write about that, when I
>> have all problems fixed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On 15/12/2010, at 17:35, John Hjelmstad <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I guess the question then is, how are you defining "application"? :) Same
>>> backend/server, same domain, same web app, all or combination of the
>> above?
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Alvaro Garcia <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> My main need is that shindig runs in the same application. The way to
>>>> implement this (get the code directly or use iframes) no matter.
>>>> 
>>>> 2010/12/9 John Hjelmstad <[email protected]>
>>>> 
>>>>> So are you looking to inline the resultant HTML or to instead be a
>>>> typical
>>>>> container, painting IFRAMEs that are rendered by Shindig?
>>>>> 
>>>>> --j
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:46 PM, Alvaro Garcia <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi John!
>>>>>> Thanks for your answer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am using google web toolkit. I want to have user interface and the
>>>>> logic
>>>>>> in the same application (using mpv). If I'm not mistaken, now I would
>>>>> need
>>>>>> to divide the application in two pieces: my application (the web page)
>>>>> and
>>>>>> shindig. My intention is to fusion them.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The base application (done with gwt) is not very complex. The tasks it
>>>>> does
>>>>>> are for example forms to create and login users. Now I want to extend
>>>> the
>>>>>> user iterface by using gadgets, and because of that I need a gadget
>>>>>> container.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know if I have explained well or if I have answered what you
>>>>> asked
>>>>>> me.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2010/12/8 John Hjelmstad <[email protected]>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Alvaro:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What servlet container are you using?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> FWIW at Google we have a hard-coded servlet engine that's not Tomcat
>>>> at
>>>>>>> all.
>>>>>>> We install servlets independently (engine is similar to
>>>>>>> http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2009/01/opengse-released.html
>>>> ).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In what environment are you planning to use this? While I suspect we
>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> get you running on another container (or even using hard-coded
>>>> logic),
>>>>>>> security issues may be present.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> --j
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 11:55 AM, Alvaro Garcia <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hello!
>>>>>>>> The problem is that my application is not running on tomcat and I
>>>>> can't
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> deploy it on my server (then I can't use shindig-server-2.0.0.war).
>>>> I
>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>> looking for the way to render the gadgets through my web app using
>>>>>>> shindig
>>>>>>>> (jars contained in shindig-2.0.0-java.tar.bz2).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> In the documentation pages (such as
>>>>>>>> http://shindig.apache.org/developers/java/samples.html or
>>>>>>>> http://shindig.apache.org/developers/java/index.html) I can't be
>>>>> able
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> find a solution to my problem. The project Socialsite (
>>>>>>>> http://java.net/projects/socialsite/sources) seems to be what I
>>>> want
>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> have the same problem as with the shindig-server.war: I can't found
>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> reference to shindig libraries in the source code.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I do not know if it is very complex but I would like somthing like:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> textfile: gadget.xml ---> String ---> (shindig) ---> rendered
>>>> gadget
>>>>>>> (html
>>>>>>>> code)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> String content = textFile.getContent();
>>>>>>>> String output = ShindigRenderer.render(content);
>>>>>>>> //Print the output
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Maybe it's crazy and I did not understand anything about how
>>>> shindig
>>>>>>> works
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> so I wonder if shindig is what I need or I should look for another
>>>>>> tool.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> 

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