FWIW, we don't actually use PropertiesModule ourselves, except as a
convenience for supplying injected values in tests. We override each of the
@Named injected values w/ either command-line or dynamic flags (--foo=bar or
data sourced by a dynamic config system pushed via alternate means).

The reason it's still there is simplicity: a convenient way to whip up an
instance of Shindig to play.  Production readiness is its own ball of wax
and depends on the installation.

--j

On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Maxwell <[email protected]> wrote:

> I do not like the idea to use the "classpath order" to override a resource.
>
> Yes I can write my own module to load the properties, it's pretty easy, but
> there are few direct references to PropertiesModule in Shindig, I'm using
> shindig as a dependence in a new web project, and not using the shindig
> project as a "main plataform", so I still thinking that remove the
> resources
> from common.jar it's a better idea, that it's common for most frameworks,
> like log4j when you need a properties to work properly.
>
> Maybe we can leave the .properties in the common, but move to a folder, and
> PropertiesModule first try to read from classpath root that should be
> provided by the application, if did not find, get from the default
> location.
>
> What do you think? Remember that I'm talking about use the shinding as a
> external framework, maybe you have a better idea, i'm just using shindig
> for
> a couple of weeks, i do not know much.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 6:44 PM, John Hjelmstad <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > The default resource path is "shindig.properties" -- PropertiesModule
> just
> > ends up delegating to ClassLoader.getResource(...) to load it. CL.gR() in
> > turn loads in Classpath-preferential order, so you could just stick your
> > own
> > shindig.properties file earlier in the classpath than the JAR in which
> it's
> > packaged by default.
> >
> > Alternately, you could your own PropertiesModule, or if you don't need
> the
> > properties remove its binding.
> >
> > Best,
> > John
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Maxwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, the problem is, it reads from shindig.properties and this file is
> in
> > > shindig-common.jar, if you want or have to change a property you can
> not.
> > >
> > > I think a better approach is remove this file and the container.js from
> > > common, the app must be responsible to put configuration files in the
> > > classpath, will be to much easier to do changes like the app context.
> > >
> > > I know you guys normally use shindig project as base to create a new
> app,
> > > but some people like me, have to include shindig in a app, not as the
> > main
> > > structure,
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > On 15/12/2010, at 18:16, Henry Saputra <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Actually the PropertiesModule does load all the key-value pairs from
> > > > shindig.properties.
> > > >
> > > > Take a look at PropertiesModule.readPropertyFile().
> > > >
> > > > - Henry
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Ryan J Baxter <[email protected]
> >
> > > wrote:
> > > >> Your right, this is my inexperience shining through here.  I thought
> > the
> > > >> PropertiesModule actually loaded all the properties from
> > > >> shindig.properties, but I guess not.  It looks like its just used to
> > set
> > > >> the values of shindig.port and shindig.host.  So there is no way to
> > > change
> > > >> the property values set in shindig.properties after you have built
> > > >> shindig?
> > > >>
> > > >> -Ryan
> > > >>
> > > >> Email: [email protected]
> > > >> Phone: 978-899-3041 <tel:+19788993041> <tel:+19788993041>
> > > >> developerWorks Profile
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> From:   Maxwell <[email protected]>
> > > >> To:     "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > >> Date:   12/15/2010 02:41 PM
> > > >> Subject:        Re: shindig.BaseIfrGadget Constructor
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Yes you can use your own version of container.js, but I do not think
> > you
> > > >> can use the same for shindig.properties.  How could you do that?
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>
> > > >> On 15/12/2010, at 17:23, "Ryan J Baxter" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> I am not so worried about container.js and shindig.properties being
> > in
> > > a
> > > >>
> > > >>> common jar because its possible to point to your own versions of
> > these,
> > > >>> right?  My understanding is that shindig.properties is loaded from
> a
> > > >> guice
> > > >>> module.  shindig.properties also contains a property that points to
> > the
> > > >>> container.js file you want to use.  So you can create your own
> guice
> > > >>> module which loads your own shindig.properties file and that
> > > >>> shindig.properties file can point to your own container.js file.
>  If
> > I
> > > >> am
> > > >>> wrong, please let me know, because then that will cause more issues
> > for
> > > >>> me.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> To my original point in the email, I just find the way it is
> > currently
> > > >>> coded to cause people to have to do more work than they should to
> > > >>> implement their own container.  Would anyone be against me opening
> a
> > > bug
> > > >>
> > > >>> for this and fixing it?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -Ryan
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Email: [email protected]
> > > >>> Phone: 978-899-3041 <tel:+19788993041> <tel:+19788993041>
> > > >>> developerWorks Profile
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> From:   Maxwell <[email protected]>
> > > >>> To:     "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > > >>> Date:   12/15/2010 02:16 PM
> > > >>> Subject:        Re: shindig.BaseIfrGadget Constructor
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> You are right, if you want to run shindig in a non-root context,
> you
> > > >> must.
> > > >>> Override the constructor, copy the code and change the serverBase.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That's bad, another thing that is bad about this is the fact you
> have
> > > >>> container.js and shindig.properties in common jar.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If you want to create a new project and set shindig as dependence,
> > you
> > > >>> will have a lot of workaround to do that.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 15/12/2010, at 17:03, "Ryan J Baxter" <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> I have a question about the constructor for shindig.BaseIfrGadget
> in
> > > >>>> shindig-container.js which is part of the feature
> shindig.container.
> > > >> Why
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> do we set the serverBase_ variable to '/gadgets/' in the
> constructor
> > > of
> > > >>
> > > >>>> this object?  Because of the way this is coded it makes it hard
> for
> > > >>>> objects extending shindig.BaseIfrGadget to override serverBase_.
> >  For
> > > >>>> example, even if you wanted to override serverBase_ in the
> > opt_params
> > > >>>> passed into the constructor, you wouldn't be able to because after
> > we
> > > >>> add
> > > >>>> the params to the object we just set serverBase_ to '/gadgets/'.
> >  The
> > > >>> only
> > > >>>> way to extend shindig.BaseIfrGadget and to override serverBase_ is
> > to
> > > >>>> never call the super constructor and instead put the code from the
> > > >>>> constructor of shindig.BaseIfrGadget in the constructor of your
> > > >>> extending
> > > >>>> class and set serverBase_ to whatever value you want.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Wouldn't it be cleaner to not set serverBase_ in the
> > > >>> shindig.BaseIfrGadget
> > > >>>> constructor and instead have it as a member variable to the class
> > > >>> itself?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> -Ryan
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Email: [email protected]
> > > >>>> Phone: 978-899-3041 <tel:+19788993041> <tel:+19788993041>
> > > >>>> developerWorks Profile
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Henry
> > >
> >
>

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