Hi,
On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Les Hazlewood wrote:
It is my understanding that only CLA contributors are allowed to
contribute to documentation to ensure their content is compatible
under the Apache 2.0 license. I believe there is a 'cla' group in
confluence that represents all CLA users, and I'm pretty sure that
everyone in that group can edit our wiki pages.
Craig, Alan, (or anyone else who might know) - do you know if we're
allowed to have a 'completely open' space where anyone can post, even
those who haven't submitted a CLA?
The Foundation gives wide latitude to projects to manage their wikis
as they like, so this is really a project question.
We certainly want to lock down pages that will be published as our web
site. [But you all should know that Confluence has a limited shelf
life here as the source for web sites. The infra team has a new tool
that will become the standard tool for projects' web sites. They call
it CMS.]
My assumption is that it would be ok to do this. For example, Jira
end-users aren't always CLA-cleared, but the ASF considers all issue
comments and patches to be 'contributions under ASL 2.0'.
Well, not exactly. There is a tick box on uploaded files that says
o Grant license to ASF for inclusion in ASF works (as per theApache
License ยง5)
Can't that
be the same for wiki edits? It would certainly reduce the barrier to
entry for those who legitimately want to help.
So there are three kinds of wikis that I know of here at Apache:
wikis that contain the web site contents (should be restricted to
project committers)
wikis that have documentation and other useful user contributions
(should be restricted to "known" users)
wikis that have random comments from users (no policy)
Just be aware that if a wiki is not restricted, spammers can attack it
and the community needs to be constantly monitoring it for abuse.
We could always get clarification from legal@ if necessary...
Please, no.
Craig
Les
On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Alex Salazar <[email protected]>
wrote:
So I did a quick test on found that there doesn't seem to be an
easy way for
someone new to quickly edit a wiki page and I think its worth
discussing how
we should handle this. The main reason I see this as a problem is
around
documentation. If the community at large can't touch the
documentation then
it's left solely to the few committers to create and improve.
Here's the process I went through.
1. Cleared out all my cookies to remove my authorized identity
2. Navigated to the Developer Resources page
3. Click on the Confluence Wiki Space link
4. When prompted I registered as a new user to confluence
5. Navigated to the Apache Shiro project
6. Tried to Edit a page
Basically, no Edit or Add link shows up to me.
I checked other Apache projects to see if there was a standard and
found
that I COULD add and edit pages for many of the other projects.
There's
seems to be two different ways other projects handle free form
community editing
1. What Cassandra does, where anyone can contribute to any part of
the site.
BTW they don't use Confluence so if you test this you'll have to
create an
account on their own wiki.
2. What Felix does, where they have two Confluence spaces. One
locked down
like ours and one complete open for full wiki style contribution.
The open
space seems mostly focused on documentation.
I think the Felix route is probably best.
Thoughts?
Alex Salazar
571-276-7777
[email protected]
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:[email protected]
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
