Still same. Even you don't make them work together. We can't provide same analysis capabilities for OTEL traces. If you want to send them to us, sure, but you need bundled lens UI(zipkin's)
https://skywalking.apache.org/docs/main/latest/en/setup/backend/otlp-trace/ Sheng Wu 吴晟 Twitter, wusheng1108 On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 21:17, Alex Lernerman <alex...@gmail.com> wrote: > > No, I don't need two agents, just asking in case of the OpenTelemetry > Java agent, what is the better solution? > 1. Use an OpenTelemetry agent for direct connection to SkyWalking with the > protocol : > a. -Dotel.exporter.otlp.protocol=http/protobuf > b. -Dotel.exporter.otlp.protocol=grpc > 2. Use an OpenTelemetry agent to send data to OpenTelemetry collector and > try to export it to Skywalking AOP > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 1:52 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Those two agents can't work together. > > If you need those analysis, you need to write a plugin. > > OTEL format is not friendly for this kind of topo analysis. Two systems are > > designed differently from beginning. > > > > Writing plugins are not hard actually. > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > Apache SkyWalking > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > Alex Lernerman <alex...@gmail.com>于2025年5月29日 周四18:44写道： > > > > > Unfortunately, you do not have an RMI plugin. I am looking for a classic > > > Java JVM solution (RESTful APIs, RMI ) . We tried your agent, it is > > > working perfectly in k8s, but for the classic application, no traces in > > > UI. One of the options is to use OpenTelemetry agent that should send > > > traces to the Collector and export it from OT to SkyWalking with your > > > exporter, or use grpc protocol and send directly to Skywalking . What is > > > the better solution ? > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 12:12 PM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > If you want to pure trace and see that on the bundled Zipkin lens > > > > UI(in the skywalking UI), it is OK. > > > > But if you need topology and metrics with 100% sampling, you have to > > > > rely on skywalking native agent. > > > > The native skywalking agent has a different protocol compared with > > OTEL. > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 17:08, Alex Lernerman <alex...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your answer, can i use OpenTelemetry Java Agent to > > collect > > > > > data, and after that send it to SkyWalking > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 11:25 AM Sheng Wu <wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://skywalking.apache.org/docs/skywalking-java/latest/en/setup/service-agent/java-agent/java-plugin-development-guide/ > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 29 May 2025 at 15:50, Alex Lernerman <alex...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > Can you send me the link to document > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 4:22 PM Sheng Wu < > > > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, we have provided plugin dev doc. You need to learn that > > and > > > > > > > > understand the RMI codes or WebLogic codes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 May 2025 at 21:17, Alex Lernerman < > > alex...@gmail.com> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can we use a third-party plugin or create our own? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 4:14 PM Sheng Wu < > > > > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We don't have RMI plugin. That could explain why you don't > > > see > > > > the > > > > > > > > trace. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 May 2025 at 21:10, Alex Lernerman < > > > > alex...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it is java RMI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 4:06 PM Sheng Wu < > > > > > > wu.sheng.841...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems the agent is up and running. > > > > > > > > > > > > About the trace, I think the key is, which RPC > > framework > > > > are > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > > using? Is that in our support list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheng Wu 吴晟 > > > > > > > > > > > > Twitter, wusheng1108 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 28 May 2025 at 20:45, Alex Lernerman < > > > > > > alex...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello , > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trying to use Agent in a WebLogic environment, I can > > > see > > > > all > > > > > > JVM > > > > > > > > > > > > parameters > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the UI, but no traces are shown. Is it a plugin > > > issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
