the suicide operation is only there for testing, for demonstrating that AM
restart takes place. It lets us
1. kill an AM on a remote cluster where we don't have the rights to SSH in
and kill processes.
2. do it as part of a repeatable sequence, such as here
https://github.com/apache/incubator-slider/blob/develop/slider-funtest/src/test/groovy/org/apache/slider/funtest/lifecycle/AMFailuresIT.groovy#L87

so yes, you are right: it's not needed in normal operation. It's only there
to help test, verify & demo restart behaviour.

On 15 December 2014 at 07:17, 杨浩 <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have done an experient, when I kill the am process, all the container
> related to this applicationmaster will restart. So the  am-suicide method
> may not be so useful
>
> 2014-12-14 13:41 GMT+08:00 杨浩 <[email protected]>:
> >
> > It's very useful for me the configure is gone.
> > As you know , if the am restart , components will not restart. But the am
> > process may be killed , like the server which runs am may shutdown, then
> > will the component restart?
> >
> > 2014-12-12 22:08 GMT+08:00 Steve Loughran <[email protected]>:
> >>
> >> That's something I think we cut out of the slider code a while back,
> >> probably before  slider 0.50
> >>
> >> It was added so that we could work with versions of Hadoop that didn't
> >> have
> >> working support for the YARN AM restart feature didn't try to use it.
> >>
> >> Prior to Hadoop 2.4, the fields to enable it weren't in the code the
> >> client
> >> used to request the feature, or in the data that came back from YARN
> when
> >> the AM Started. We used reflection to try to load the methods if they
> >> weren't there. For extra fun, the method could be in the hadoop JARs on
> >> the
> >> client, but not on the server, and as we were using the pre-installed
> >> hadoop JARs on the server, we could end up setting the option on the
> >> client, but not have it do anything.
> >>
> >> I think the flag was there to tell the tests whether or not the feature
> >> was
> >> present in the destination cluster, so whether to run tests to kill the
> AM
> >> and expect it to come back up *retaining the existing containers* —that
> >> is,
> >> if the AM could be restarted without the running application noticing.
> >>
> >> Everything works on Hadoop 2.6, so the option is gone, tests do kill the
> >> AM
> >> and expect it come back (there's a "slider am-suicide" command for
> testing
> >> this).
> >>
> >> There's a property "slider.yarn.restart.limit" which sets a limit on how
> >> many times slider should ask to restart; if unset you get the YARN limit
> >> defined by "yarn.resourcemanager.am.max-retries" (plus some windowing
> >> feature which handles intermittent timeouts over a long running
> service).
> >> Set it to 1 and should say "no restarts" (i.e. one attempt to run slider
> >> is
> >> made -the first)
> >>
> >> It's covered in the
> >> http://slider.incubator.apache.org/docs/client-configuration.html docs
> >>
> >> -steve
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12 December 2014 at 11:41, 杨浩 <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > How to configure the configuration? When set false, sometimes it
> works,
> >> and
> >> > sometimes not.
> >> >
> >>
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