Hi,

On 22.06.2010 15:46, Justin Edelson wrote:
> On 6/22/10 9:21 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>> Hi Justin,
>>
>> On 22.06.2010 15:09, Justin Edelson wrote:
>>> On 6/22/10 3:44 AM, Felix Meschberger wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Rather than automatically creating JCR users for OpenID users, I would
>>>> support (and call this mechanism) self-registration.
>>>>
>>>> We can still use AX, SReg, and similar extensions to prefill user
>>>> details (if available from the OpenID provider). But I would not create
>>>> users automatically on the fly without user intervention and without
>>>> adding prevention to automatically fill the user space.
>>>>
>>>> As such this issue sounds like a duplicate of SLING-1562.
>>>
>>> The use case I have in mind here is very different than SLING-1562 - it
>>> is for environments where an OpenID IDP is used as an identity provider
>>> for an organization. For example, imagine an organization which uses
>>> Google Apps for Domains and wants a Sling application to authenticate
>>> users against their Google Apps account. In these circumstances, OpenID
>>> is essentially used exactly like a LDAP server (which is why I drew that
>>> parallel) - ONLY users from a particular IDP are allowed access to the
>>> application and IDP is the user data source of record.
>>>
>>> I'll need this type of functionality in any case. If it ends up being
>>> too specific to put into Sling, I'll keep it out. What may be necessary
>>> is to add the Listener whiteboard I suggested below, but I can create
>>> another JIRA for that when it comes up.
>>
>> Thanks for the explanation.
>>
>> Sounds good, lets go ... ;-)
>>
>> Anyway, also for SLING-1562 would we need some hookup support from the
>> OpenID handler to be able to query the OpenID provider for more details
>> than just the identity.
>>
>> How about adding a service interface to the OpenID auth bundle, which
>> allows for asking for more information of the currently logged in user
>> (or any OpenID identity) without exposing DYU ? Would this be possible
>> without making it too complex ?
> Well, the advantage of using DYU's Listener is that they've already
> implemented support for AX, SReg, OAuth, etc. I don't think we want to
> end up in a situation where a bundle is wrapping DYU's OAuth Listener in
> an implementation of our interface which then gets invoked by our
> whiteboard which implements the DYU Listener interface.
> 
> That said, I see where you're going with this and I agree that it would
> be good to avoid exporting the implementation detail that we're using
> DYU. I just don't know how to go about that.

Yes, this is the dilemma ...

We could of course export (part of) the dyuproject-openid library and
expose a properly configured RelyingParty object as a service.

Regards
Felix

> 
> Justin
> 
>>
>> Regards
>> Felix
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Justin
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> Felix
>>>>
>>>> On 21.06.2010 15:36, Justin Edelson (JIRA) wrote:
>>>>> Automatically create a User object for an OpenID identifier
>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>                  Key: SLING-1563
>>>>>                  URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SLING-1563
>>>>>              Project: Sling
>>>>>           Issue Type: New Feature
>>>>>           Components: Extensions
>>>>>             Reporter: Justin Edelson
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Similar to how CRX supports autocreating User accounts when a successful 
>>>>> LDAP authentication is done 
>>>>> (http://dev.day.com/docs/en/crx/current/administering/ldap_authentication.html#Auto
>>>>>  Creation), it would be nice if the OpenID authentication bundle could 
>>>>> support autocreate a user account under a certain set of circumstances.
>>>>>
>>>>> * This function should be *disabled* by default.
>>>>> * Use AX (http://openid.net/specs/openid-attribute-exchange-1_0.html) to 
>>>>> request a set of user attributes from the identity provider and the 
>>>>> configurable mappings between these attributes and User node properties.
>>>>> * Since OpenID doesn't support groups, a default set of one or more 
>>>>> groups needs to be specified for new users.
>>>>> * A regex can be supplied for OpenID identifiers to limit which 
>>>>> identifiers will result in auto-generated User accounts
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm doubtful that this should be done in the openid auth bundle. An 
>>>>> alternative would be to create a whiteboard to look for implementations 
>>>>> of DYU's Listener interface. Newer DYU versions have AX support via a 
>>>>> Listener and I'm pretty sure the autocreation could be done in a Listener 
>>>>> as well.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
> 
> 

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